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Steam Name: Blue Shift 2
Steam ID: 76561198155988671
Discord Name: the_elites_are_blind_arbiter
Character Name: LINE-3
Faction/Group (If applicable): Civil Protection
Reason for Appeal: Bleedout bug and what I believe should've been an NLR under current PK rules. Plus, after all the mass PK sweeps and especially yesterday's events (Nova Prospekt Expo), I think a lot of PKs have been given out too prematurely. With that in mind, I'm hoping to get my PK overturned in time to take part in the Lambda Arc before it ends, since at that point I think too much would have happened to void my character's death.
Counter-Evidence/Arguments:
I'll start off by saying that I don't entirely blame the opposite party (Gordon Freeman) in immediately going S2K, as the map we're on can be quite limiting (and from what I saw in sandbox he didn't really have any way to avoid our PT which was blocking the hallway). I will say that, in my opinion, it was in rather poor taste to interrupt the RP that two of the other officers had with the citizens by immediately rushing them with melee. IMO he could've went for S2RP and I think the results would've been quite different (1 crowbar vs. 1 baton and 1 gun), but I'll leave that question for the other cop players to pursue in their PK Appeals if they want to.
In any case, I believe that under the current PK rules my character should not have been PK'd. First off, he was not part of the party that was chasing Gordon Freeman and was instead simply hanging around the upper fence area when he heard the BSLs go off. He did not go down the stairs to confront Freeman and basically just happened to be in his way. I would argue that this qualifies for a Death through shotcop meaning LINE-3 shouldn't have been PK'd but instead NLR'd.
He did not do anything to provoke Freeman into attacking (simply going for self-defense) and was basically at the wrong place and at the wrong time.

Second, after LINE-3 was downed he was immediately killed without entering bleedout mode. Since there was already a PT chasing Freeman from the train station, he could've been easily saved within the 5-minute timeframe. Another key point is that he landed down the stairs and away from the open sightline that Freeman was using to shoot at the reinforcing cops. Ergo, he was also safe from the explosive barrels.

Proof of counter-evidence:
Logs can validate all of the info that I stated. I don't have any video evidence, but I think there are a lot of saved POVs from Freeman's side of things. I managed to get a hold of one of the fragments that shows his encounter with LINE-3:

Additional Information (Optional): I'll be happy if any other cops that were present on the scene to share some other important facts of the engagement. I don't think Gordon has a forums account so if someone from the Rebel side can pass over his info that'd be great too.
Steam ID: 76561198155988671
Discord Name: the_elites_are_blind_arbiter
Character Name: LINE-3
Faction/Group (If applicable): Civil Protection
Reason for Appeal: Bleedout bug and what I believe should've been an NLR under current PK rules. Plus, after all the mass PK sweeps and especially yesterday's events (Nova Prospekt Expo), I think a lot of PKs have been given out too prematurely. With that in mind, I'm hoping to get my PK overturned in time to take part in the Lambda Arc before it ends, since at that point I think too much would have happened to void my character's death.
Counter-Evidence/Arguments:
I'll start off by saying that I don't entirely blame the opposite party (Gordon Freeman) in immediately going S2K, as the map we're on can be quite limiting (and from what I saw in sandbox he didn't really have any way to avoid our PT which was blocking the hallway). I will say that, in my opinion, it was in rather poor taste to interrupt the RP that two of the other officers had with the citizens by immediately rushing them with melee. IMO he could've went for S2RP and I think the results would've been quite different (1 crowbar vs. 1 baton and 1 gun), but I'll leave that question for the other cop players to pursue in their PK Appeals if they want to.
In any case, I believe that under the current PK rules my character should not have been PK'd. First off, he was not part of the party that was chasing Gordon Freeman and was instead simply hanging around the upper fence area when he heard the BSLs go off. He did not go down the stairs to confront Freeman and basically just happened to be in his way. I would argue that this qualifies for a Death through shotcop meaning LINE-3 shouldn't have been PK'd but instead NLR'd.
He did not do anything to provoke Freeman into attacking (simply going for self-defense) and was basically at the wrong place and at the wrong time.

Second, after LINE-3 was downed he was immediately killed without entering bleedout mode. Since there was already a PT chasing Freeman from the train station, he could've been easily saved within the 5-minute timeframe. Another key point is that he landed down the stairs and away from the open sightline that Freeman was using to shoot at the reinforcing cops. Ergo, he was also safe from the explosive barrels.

Proof of counter-evidence:
Logs can validate all of the info that I stated. I don't have any video evidence, but I think there are a lot of saved POVs from Freeman's side of things. I managed to get a hold of one of the fragments that shows his encounter with LINE-3:

Additional Information (Optional): I'll be happy if any other cops that were present on the scene to share some other important facts of the engagement. I don't think Gordon has a forums account so if someone from the Rebel side can pass over his info that'd be great too.
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