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The Milkman

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Steam Name: The Milkman
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:104895897

Name of the Admin you were banned by: Goose
How long is the ban for?: a week
The reason you were banned?: "Suspicious character swapping, metagame"
Why do you wish to be unbanned?:
Because I don't see how I metagamed.

About an hour or 2 before the vort freeing attempt I decided to just float around on scanner because I didn't feel like doing much on my vort until the time came. Upon flagging on and after a few minutes I see OTA talking about deploying in @dispatch chat. Knowing OTA and that they're alerted for vort freeings, I just start talking to them about it and whatnot. Then I hear them talking about 'practicing their route to the forcefield' with a 'training' in the sewers. This alarmed me because knowing Vadim of all people, I assumed this was just so he could see the fortifcations we'd built, and so he could have an excuse to go down there and sabotage them ICly. I told them to not to fuck with the barricades in @dispatch chat because let's be real, they were gonna do it. But then they proceded to ignore me. So, I DM'd Neonity telling them about it, because Neonity is the fucking OTA lead and obviously is gonna know about it beforehand. I only realized 'wait they might be on their rebel' after I'd sent the message (which never really mattered because apparently they were doing staff stuff and again, most likely authorized it in the first place. Could be wrong.).

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Another reason I presume I was banned for was talking about said OTA training on the #unity-general. But this was AFTER Memesky mentioned it on the public channel, so after he did that I assumed it didn't matter if I did as well. I figured it didn't matter because of the Memesky thing, AND because, of course OTA are gonna know about the vort sweep. That's how they've functioned since day 1, it's not news to anyone that OTA are flagged on beforehand.

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And the final part of 'what's a reason I might have been banned?', after the horrendous failure of the vort freeing, I flagged onto my scanner just to witness the rest of the carnage unfold. I was already PK'd and had literally no benefit to witnessing CPs mop up. I just wanted to watch because I didn't want to just sit in the character screen after.

So basically, because I happened to flag onto my scanner at the wrong time and because Vadim wanted to go down and [ALLEGEDLY] metagame for himself, I've been banned for metagame after trying to make sure OTA didn't do exactly that. Passive aggressiveness aside, if I ACTUALLY wanted to metagame to get a one-up on the Combine or whatever, I wouldn't have done it on the public rebel discord chats. I was just saying what everyone knew at the moment: that OTA went in the sewers for a 'training' before the vort escape.

If I'm somehow wrong about any of my guesses at ban reasons, please tell me, because all I can do is hypothesize. I didn't have any malicious intent with whatever metagaming I did.

Do you have any picture or video evidence to support your reason?:
see above!!

Were there any witnesses who can help in this appeal?: I guess @Neonity ? @Memesky maybe. @Vadim too because he's no doubt the man trying so hard to get me banned (luv u too)
 
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Your ban was issued due to a growing suspicion of meta-game, as we'd frequently see you switching from your scanner to free Vortigaunt in a short period of time. Originally, it was simply passed off as coincidence, but upon seeing this happen several times, it slowly looked more-and-more realistic. While this could just be horrible coincidence, in which case, I'd issue you an apology, please check the logs attached to this to understand the reasoning of the ban.

I'd also like to remind you that this wasn't issued with any ill-intent towards you, and Vadim had nothing to do with this. This is stuff that's happened overtime that we decided to handle today, which is semi-related with the drama that occurred because that is why your name was brought up again.

Listed below is all the instances I could find of you switching characters, I haven't had the time to properly sort-out the instances here, so you'll just have to dig through the logs yourself a little bit to see what I am referring to, apologies for that. In either case, here you go:

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As I said, this could just be a case of unfortunate timing. However, from our standpoint it seems more malicious then accidental. The issue with you switching from scanner to free vortigaunt being that you could see how many overwatch players were flagged up at the time.
 
Your ban was issued due to a growing suspicion of meta-game, as we'd frequently see you switching from your scanner to free Vortigaunt in a short period of time. Originally, it was simply passed off as coincidence, but upon seeing this happen several times, it slowly looked more-and-more realistic. While this could just be horrible coincidence, in which case, I'd issue you an apology, please check the logs attached to this to understand the reasoning of the ban.

I'd also like to remind you that this wasn't issued with any ill-intent towards you, and Vadim had nothing to do with this. This is stuff that's happened overtime that we decided to handle today, which is semi-related with the drama that occurred because that is why your name was brought up again.

Listed below is all the instances I could find of you switching characters, I haven't had the time to properly sort-out the instances here, so you'll just have to dig through the logs yourself a little bit to see what I am referring to, apologies for that. In either case, here you go:

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As I said, this could just be a case of unfortunate timing. However, from our standpoint it seems more malicious then accidental. The issue with you switching from scanner to free vortigaunt being that you could see how many overwatch players were flagged up at the time.
I can’t say for any of the other days because I cant remember every time I’ve ever flagged on scanner but today my constant flagging off and on was to see if the other Vortigaunts were flagged on. So kind of the other way around tbh, as I knew OTA would be around for the vort escape, but I didn’t wanna bother AFKing on my vort and was only interested in getting on my vort until Xie Gro And Kalh’Khan got on.

Other than that I can’t exactly defend myself because obviously I’m not gonna have an excuse for every suspicious moment. Nevertheless, I apologize for acting like a little bitch. It’s just frustrating feeling like you were cheated out of not being the man responsible for RebelRP getting obliterated and then getting banned later.

Do what you must, I need to step away from HL2RP anyways.

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As I mentioned, this isn't only because of what happened today. Those logs track back all the way to server launch. I suppose I appreciate you being honest, as you were checking to see if the other vorts were flagged. Still, I appreciate you understanding the situation a little bit more and taking some time to think and relax before responding.

I'll leave the final verdict in an unbiased parties hands.
 
Hi Milkman!

Your DMs with me had no impact on this ban, as stated. You’re fine on that regard, have a nice day :)
 
Hi Milk,

I talked it over with other staff and although I agree completely that the frequency of your charswapping is mad sus and should be avoided in the future, there is insufficient evidence of any hard metagaming.

The appeal is accepted under the following conditions:

- You will refrain from charswapping as often/randomly as the times shown earlier in this thread. There's honestly no reason for it and it does imply malice.
- Any future cases of metagame will be punished more severely than usual.

As for your whitelist, I do believe it can be restored since this appeal is accepted. You should talk to the Dispatch manager for that, they've already been informed IIRC.
 
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