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Should LFC be disbanded?

Should LFC be disbanded?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 39.3%
  • Yes, or change the current way of managing it

    Votes: 29 32.6%
  • No

    Votes: 3 3.4%
  • No, but change the current way of managing it

    Votes: 22 24.7%

  • Total voters
    89
  • Poll closed .
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Belgg

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LFC has been a very controversial faction, and most players are upset, or simply disagree with the way It's currently being managed, so I decided to make this post in order to see what everyone thinks. All the votes are anonymous, and this poll is only meant to reflect the community's opinion on the matter, and not to actually cause it to be disbanded or not.

I'll provide a few reasons why I personally believe it should be disbanded

LFC is a whitelisted rebel faction. And for that reason, It's purpose could be defined in two choices, either it's used as a way to interconnect and create a network between independent cells, or they are a big cell of its own in charge of doing big acts against combine (It being riots, destroying combine structures, etc). LFC is none of them, currently, and instead, is a private section of the server that does private events that you are prohibited access from if you're not a part of the whitelist, and simply relays on rping with each other. (Except for a few members, which do RP with the rest). LFC is basically like playing on the SS server. You do not care about the rest of the world and simply wait for the next mission to pop and do it with your whitelisted fellas.

LFC is a way of separating players and making them believe that they're somehow better because they received an armband for filling out an OOC form, and for that same reason, everyone seems to want to get that LFC whitelist, getting to the point of not wanting to develop their rebel characters into any independent rebel cell with the fear of not being accepted, or simply because they're waiting to be accepted or denied. It is absurd.

They have special advantages, and even special treatment, even regarding CP (You can't raid the cool boys faction unless they're all online, and they can have 100000 storage units)

They seem to be a complete chaos internally in LFC (Confirmed by a lot of its members) Coming to the point of not being able to make suggestions, since their leads are AFK (According to them, I can't confirm it nor deny it, since I'm not a cool boy).


My solutions to this:

1- Change the current leadership of LFC, and give it to someone that isn't LOA (At least until the guy comes back), and knows how to manage an organization or cell (Has experience).
2- Change the way of managing the LFC, and focus it more on helping the playerbase instead of helping themselves.
3- Disband the LFC and turn it into a normal rebel cell, getting rid of its advantages fully.


VOTES:
If you vote yes, you are saying that the ONLY solution is to disband it.
If you vote yes, or change the current way of managing it, then you are saying that you don't care if it's disbanded or if the management changes, you just want it fixed or gone.
If you vote no, then you completely disagree with this post and don't want LFC changed
If you vote no, but change the current way of managing it, then you are saying that you don't want it to disband, but do want it to change in the ways specified in this post.
 
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I think alot of us on the loyalist side at this point have just sort of come to the conclusion awhile ago that like the rebels are never going to unify and accomplish anything on their own while the LFC Was wishful thinking I think they need to be less paying citizens to drive by shops and more training rebels in the wilderness so they're not Chicago switch glock gang bangers and instead are competent insurgents. Rebels are supposed to be fighting the government I.E CPs OTA. OSF ect instead they seem to mug bomb and shoot civilians and at this point have made CPs the hero's as opposed to them being the protagonists.

TL: DR

(I've said this a gallion times don't care about the back lash)
Either an admin group needs to take rebels non offical ones who arent just gang bangers into the wild/outlands and train them to be rebel fighters so they're not just a bunch of sweaty criminals larping as revolutionaries. Or we're gonna be stuck with gang bangers posing as freedom fighters.

There needs to be a cooperative effort as opposed to dozens of disunified groups slinging shit and tarnishing the resistance's name further.

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These are the forrest brothers they were an Estonian/Latvian lithuanian guerilla group which fought the soviets in the woods durring and after WW2 they would set ambushes and ask local citizens sympathetic for supplies and shelter they didn't go bombing and gunning/mugging civillians.
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Here are the Mujihadeen they fought agianst the soviets in afghanistan using us funded gear and weapons along with what they could improvise or get off the black market/from captured Soviet gear and managed to successfully drive soviets out of their homeland.
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This is a group of Vietcong fighters they vietcong used guerilla warfare to help push both the french and american/south korean/australian forces out of their country using both captured weapons siezed from the enemy and donated weapons from allies sympathetic to their cause.
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Here are a group of syrian rebels they were made of civillians and former defected soldiers and other military personnel and would often improvise weapon systems and used captured weapons and tunnel systems to fight the government until 2014.


Point here is the rebels on server do nothing and when they do something its either literally or figuratively "bomb the RDT" bombing the RDT does nothing but pull people from your cause you might Aswell torch wheat fields and poison the water supply as a rebel you should be incredibly conscience of public opinion as more than anything it's what matters the government will always paint you as a monster but if you're doing good amongst everyone and not just the small isolated group of slummers who do nothing but script grind you're fighting 10/100 the fight and will lose the rebels should be training fighters in the outlands and launching propaganda efforts to try and convert the Human paramilitary elements over to their cause I.e OSF/CP along with the workers who could support them and their endeavors as opposed to paying a sum to go shoot up the hotel which is the last bastion of passive on the server.

REBELS CAN and in the past through HL2RPs history have been interesting but the Willard approach to rebels is just boring they're cloak and dagger terrorists who all coagulate in the outlands/slums and are essentially gangsters/thieves doing nothing.

In 2023 the Rebels MUST train fighters and fix their image or we're going to have another stagnant year.
 
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Either an admin group needs to take rebels non offical ones who arent just gang bangers into the wild/outlands and train them to be rebel fighters so they're not just a bunch of sweaty criminals larping as revolutionaries
Let it be known.
Me and others were not trained when we joined the LFC, so this is in need of being changed major.
 
As the leader of a rebel cell, the LFC has done nothing to help the local cells, at most one or 2 members have talked to us, the LFC needs to be focused on uniting the cells and actual be a collation. The LFC right now is the super rebel commando squad (it's not even good at being that), something we do not need, and it is not good for the whole of the resistance. It either needs major reform or disbanding. So, dose Clover, but that's for another time.
 
As the leader of a rebel cell, the LFC has done nothing to help the local cells, at most one or 2 members have talked to us, the LFC needs to be focused on uniting the cells and actual be a collation. The LFC right now is the super rebel commando squad (it's not even good at being that), something we do not need, and it is not good for the whole of the resistance. It either needs major reform or disbanding. So, dose Clover, but that's for another time.
Yes, I give a gun.

If you really want to have some change do it by yourself, LFC is like any other rebel cell. It would be the same as the Okay Jun army does nothing time to disband it. If you were inside the faction you would see the difficulty that we currently face. The only advantage we got is to skip this whole introduction. Hi, I am a new guy and I want to rebel and get into biz right away. For me it is like any other cell, Expo are not ongoing, and there are a lot of issues in the REBEL RP itself, If you think that LFC can actually be the solution you are dead wrong. First, There are needed to be major changes to the whole category if its by loot, Economy, Expo and operations. For now, LFC is just stuck in the mud and cannot move due to those issues that we are unable to do pretty much anything
 
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Yes, I give a gun.

If you really want to have some change, do it by yourself, LFC is like any other rebel cell. It would be the same as the Okay Jun army does nothing time to disband it. If you were inside the faction, you would see the difficulty that we currently face. The only advantage we got is to skip this whole introduction. Hi, I am a new guy and I want to rebel and get into biz right away. For me it is like any other cell, Expo are not ongoing, and there are a lot of issues in the REBEL RP itself, if you think that LFC can actually be the solution you are dead wrong. First, there are needed to be major changes to the whole category if it's by loot, Economy, Expo and operations. For now, LFC is just stuck in the mud and cannot move due to those issues that we are unable to do pretty much anything
well, the LFC is not just another cell, it's the whitelisted rebel faction, it does have advantages that no other cell has, and it gets priority to do stuff. For it to be the whitelisted faction it has to do more than a normal cell, and has to lead the resistance as a whole, or I see no real point to it. When the idea for a whitelisted rebel faction was proposed I has assumed that it would be doing leadership of the rebellion, that is not happening. You are right about the other major problems, but as of right now the LFC is a major detriment to Rebel RP as a whole, along with Clover.

The LFCs main goal should be to build the rebellion and help the other cells, not just be the rebel commandos. Considering how members of the LFC and Clover have acted towards civies and even members of their own group, they are not doing a very good job, and actively alienate both the civilians and other rebels.

and yes, I do plan on doing change myself, this is part of that effort.
 
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well, the LFC is not just another cell, it's the whitelisted rebel faction, it does have advantages that no other cell has, and it gets priority to do stuff. For it to be the whitelisted faction it has to do more than a normal cell, and has to lead the resistance as a whole, or I see no real point to it. When the idea for a whitelisted rebel faction was proposed I has assumed that it would be doing leadership of the rebellion, that is not happening. You are right about the other major problems, but as of right now the LFC is a major detriment to Rebel RP as a whole, along with Clover.

The LFCs main goal should be to build the rebellion and help the other cells, not just be the rebel commandos. Considering how members of the LFC and Clover have acted towards civies and even members of their own group, they are not doing a very good job, and actively alienate both the civilians and other rebels.

and yes, I do plan on doing change myself, this is part of that effort.
"I have a dream" man, Help other cells right, Those other cells need to build trust and contact with LFC, We don't need to beg you to be our friends, If we arm people, it would be just chaos, It would be like every guy havin' a "pooper". So far, I have seen two cells. They lack equipment, and the agenda isn't the same. So how do you want the LFC to help other cells and lead the resistance when there is none? " both the civilians and other rebels." What? The homeless shelter is run by the LFC manned by it. It really only carries the Clover sign, and we supply it every time.

If you can actually show me things we did wrong and I can conclude and actually maybe improve LFC be my guest, I am trying to do that too. To make "Change" which is impossible due to the server foot stomp the rebel abilities.
 
If you can actually show me things we did wrong and I can conclude and actually maybe improve LFC be my guest, I am trying to do that too. To make "Change" which is impossible due to the server foot stomp the rebel abilities.
Train your troops.
Do shit in the city.
Remove Clover.
Profit.
 
Removing clover wont help the LFC at all lol. Clover is just a background group, who incidentally the LFC have managed to piss off numerous times. The LFC can become something, but those within it need to work on building connections with other groups in the district, be less arrogant in character (PF has had enough of this now and that's entirely why she acts how she does). LFC leads are struggling to find things to do, hence one or two going on LOA. Its not easy to make events for a faction. Rather than asking them to step down, try supporting them first, giving your idea's and such. The faction cannot grow without the support of its members primarily.
 
can we get some extra options for removing clover too? fuck clover fr

Lmao Clover is dumb. I made it as an ic explanation for player BMD and just random backstory in random comments IC and it spiralled into being percieved as bigger than it is or meant to be.
 
Lmao Clover is dumb. I made it as an ic explanation for player BMD and just random backstory in random comments IC and it spiralled into being percieved as bigger than it is or meant to be.
If that is how much effort you put into the most influential rebel group on the server you can see where the problem is.
 
If that is how much effort you put into the most influential rebel group on the server you can see where the problem is.

They are not supposed to be influential nor a rebel group. Like, it started all innocent with just me playing Broker as a BMD, then Player BMD came along and it got bigger, then name of the faction spread and it got even bigger...And now Clover is some household rebel name.

They are only supposed to be a background group whom can occasionally assist rebels, mainly with expeditions. In the past I've had a lot of people come to me IC and ask for transport to A or B or maybe special orders for RP items that'd assist them in their operations. Clover is, gameplay wise, just meant to be a means of aquiring both scripts & RP items with chips & also favors I guess (things like asking about world map locations and gaining ic knowledge of things, ask us to be the middle man in spreading word on smth etc etc)

What we're not supposed to be is a major plot group driving forward the resistance arc. Ocassionally, I do, do that, yes. Like with the map switch to provide ic clarity behind it. But, that's a very rare circumstance. As for the outlands settlement thing? I didn't sanction that. I let it play out but, I didn't like it. For gameplay issues & just the fact Clover were in charge of it, which I didn't like.

I do appreciate the fact that rebels have grown to see us so influential. But I will say, the reputation Clover has was built by the playerbase, not me or admin rebels. It has just become bigger and bigger thanks to the involvement and intrest of rebel rpers. So, maybe there is truth in the fact that I have not made enough effort to keep up with the growing popularity and going forward, could write up some lore docs and draw some harder lines in the ooc purpose of the group. Cause I will admit, I still treat it as casually as the day it came to be and back then it was very small (they way I intended it to stay) but now, I think It's time I start treating it a little more seriously.
 
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We need to have some supplier faction then have LFC Be a directing/guiding hand that helps train and keep the regional rebels in check and in times of crisis/desparation can act as an emergency "Special ops" or w/e

Clover should be the reason how LFC Has like a tank or some cool piece of hardware but should usually be off server.

LFC should focus on training rebels in the vast outlands and handling gangs that tarnish the rebels image
 
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