Removal of Houndeye auth

[Donavin Jones]

I never wanted you to become a pet, and it wasn't my decision after I stepped down

It would have been nice to know this, but I think this kind of backfires. As in my houndeyes lore, I was already tamed before reaching District-9.

There's no admin abuse, this is just blatantly being butt-hurt you got caught trying to be sneaky. Should've thought about that before doing so..

I never said Admin Abuse, that was never in this. Also, I wasn't trying to be sneaky. In fact, I'd say I was very open this happened.

You even asked for confirmation in DM's the day you got your application accepted. You knew better.

And this was due to the fact my Houndeye was saved.

That is how it works, those are the rules.

it still attempts to attack them or run away. It shows absolutely zero signs of domestication, because it is impossible.

You might think its fun, and some of the other players might, but for the remaining 95% of the playerbase it is ridiculous. That is why it all has to be voided.

These I very much disagree with, and Headcrabs HAVE been tamed in the past. In fact, my vorts tamed one (i don't know if its been voided yet though) You have to go through Char Auths to have your headcrab tamed, and to tame one. And, '95% of the playerbase it is is ridiculous' I think is false. Everyone I've met thinks it was good RP, I never even got any negative DM's about it, or PM's. Some LOOC comments have even spoke positvely about it.

 

[mmate88]

Now, I know under his terms, I broke that trust. But, out right just removing my Houndeye isn't just removing my houndeye char, its removing RP that I have had with it, its removing a good chunk of RP others have had with it as well. Such people I can name are @@mmate88 @@MelonHeadzzz @@Omega and a good countless others I've encountered.

I can vouch for that. "Dog" played a big part in my char's RP

 

[M!NT]

These I very much disagree with, and Headcrabs HAVE been tamed in the past. In fact, my vorts tamed one (i don't know if its been voided yet though) You have to go through Char Auths to have your headcrab tamed, and to tame one. And, '95% of the playerbase it is is ridiculous' I think is false. Everyone I've met thinks it was good RP, I never even got any negative DM's about it, or PM's. Some LOOC comments have even spoke positvely about it.

A vortigaunt can communicate with a headcrab. A human cannot. If anyone has tamed a headcrab with a human character, that needs to be voided ASAP and heads need to roll.

 

[Donavin Jones]

A vortigaunt can communicate with a headcrab. A human cannot. If anyone has tamed a headcrab with a human character, that needs to be voided ASAP and heads need to roll.

That'd be voiding like a good chunk of everyone.
I know Travis had a Fast Headcrab that'd come to their base for food, and even come in from time to time.

 

[M!NT]

That'd be voiding like a good chunk of everyone.
I know Travis had a Fast Headcrab that'd come to their base for food, and even come in from time to time.

Clearly against the rules. That should be voided imho

So at this point your argument is that Goose told you not to do it, but you did it anyways, but you still shouldn't have your WL removed for fail RP because.. its already done? Thats makes no sense. Its Fail RP and it has to be voided, and WL should be removed because you broke the rules of the WL. Thats how these things work and there are no exceptions. The rules apply equally for everyone.

As far as a case for admin abuse goes here, I don't think there is anything at all that could be considered abuse from Kaffee. He made the right decision given the proper context.

 

[Fallizs]

yeah but think about lamar and kleiner, they got on pretty well with eachother , so how does this not work out?
if some old ass bum walks up to the houndeye and said hello, man i would be talking to that mf in english and all other languages
also i dont ever see houndeye's ever in slums, this guy is like the only one i seen in so long

 

[Omega]

All I’m gonna say, is that Dog made a mistake. People make mistakes all the time, and this mistake is so minor, the “worst” it did was just make more RP for the People he had encountered.

Should he be reprimanded? Sure, I get why y’all would want to do that. Should he be removed? No.

It feels like players messing up is treated as a cardinal sin that needs to be dealt with ASAP, while whenever staff mess up, OOCly or ICly, it gets swept under the rug under the guise of “Oh, we got a lot to deal with right now, we’re working on it”. Y’all are blowing this way out of proportion, and acting like Dog’s malicious in what he did, and like he did it on purpose.

 

[Donavin Jones]

Kaffee. He made the right decision given the proper context.

I'll say again, I never at any point said admin abuse from Kaffee.
I'll mention it AGAIN, I am fine with me having to be more Hostile.
And I'll mention it now, Xenians arent just completely hostile to everyone. If that were the case, shouldn't what was 'Grunk' be voided? Ta'Rugal, another Houndeye was also tamed and docile and was cool with Humans in their group. Hell, in i17 a fucking Panthereye was tamed. A single vort and some dude looked at it and tamed it iirc, so I don't get your point that. Xenians cannot be domesticated, when there is countless evidence in the server they have.

Should he be reprimanded? Sure, I get why y’all would want to do that.

Something I should've mentioned, but it didn't enter my head when making this. I'm cool with being warned for this, hell even if my Houndeye is FORCED to be more hostile to about everyone. But to be out right removed all for a simple mistake is not cool.

It feels like players messing up is treated as a cardinal sin that needs to be dealt with ASAP, while whenever staff mess up, OOCly or ICly, it gets swept under the rug under the guise of “Oh, we got a lot to deal with right now, we’re working on it”. Y’all are blowing this way out of proportion, and acting like Dog’s malicious in what he did, and like he did it on purpose.

And this also, staff treat everything like a sin. I understand you guys wanna improve the RP, but this decision feels like its more or less REMOVING RP.

 

[Donavin Jones]

yeah but think about lamar and kleiner, they got on pretty well with eachother

This also, at the start when you escape Nova Prospekt with Alyx and go back to Kleiners lab, you see Lamar next to them seeing who came through the portal, and seemed curious.

 

[M!NT]

I'll say again, I never at any point said admin abuse from Kaffee.

This is an admin abuse report about kaffee, and you're saying you don't think that there is admin abuse here?

Then lets close this thread. Clearly there was no admin abuse here, and we can move on. The decision about voiding and dewhilsting shouldn't happen in an admin abuse thread. There are other mechanisms for that.

 

[M!NT]

It feels like players messing up is treated as a cardinal sin that needs to be dealt with ASAP, while whenever staff mess up, OOCly or ICly, it gets swept under the rug under the guise of “Oh, we got a lot to deal with right now, we’re working on it”. Y’all are blowing this way out of proportion, and acting like Dog’s malicious in what he did, and like he did it on purpose.

Gonna need examples, otherwise this is hearsay.

 

[𝔄𝔪𝔟𝔢𝔯𝔮]

@Petski , could you maybe say a few words about this, given you've roleplayed a tamed *bullsquid*, something I view is more of a predator than an houndeye?

 

[M!NT]

And I'll mention it now, Xenians arent just completely hostile to everyone. If that were the case, shouldn't what was 'Grunk' be voided? Ta'Rugal, another Houndeye was also tamed and docile and was cool with Humans in their group. Hell, in i17 a fucking Panthereye was tamed. A single vort and some dude looked at it and tamed it iirc, so I don't get your point that. Xenians cannot be domesticated, when there is countless evidence in the server they have.

If any of those things happened without an auth through the correct channels then it needs to be voided as well.

 

[Donavin Jones]

This is an admin abuse report about kaffee, and you're saying you don't think that there is admin abuse here?

Then lets close this thread. Clearly there was no admin abuse here, and we can move on. The decision about voiding and dewhilsting shouldn't happen in an admin abuse thread. There are other mechanisms for that.

This is very aggressive for no reason, I put it in staff reports since it'd be moved here. Its a report to get my Houndeye Char back, if you want move this to PK appeals since what your implying, thats what this is. This is no 'I think kaffee should be removed', not in the slightest.

If any of those things happened without an auth through the correct channels then it needs to be voided as well.

This also, it just seems you wanna purge Xenians from existance. Even though they make good RP, and to void that would be voiding so much.
I would agree if it wasn't such a bad take, and it clearly only shows that you'd rather remove good RP then encourage it.

 

[ShadoWiz4rd]

#Freemymans Hound eye

 

[Craw]

Hi, I played a Houndeye character a few months ago before retiring the char completely, the auth team let's you know your specific guidelines that you have to follow upon acceptance, for me I had to remain below ground and never surface unless it was needed.

If you break the rules then you were to be removed. I know its shitty to lose a unique char but that's life unfortunately.

 

[Craw]

wanna purge Xenians from existance. Even though they make good RP, and to void that would be voiding so much.

Coming from a guy who has played too many xenian chars: Willard has too many and needs to get rid of them

 

[Omega]

Gonna need examples

Neonity as trial admin wrongfully banned Nesh after publicly telling him to “confess or be banned” and allowing others to dog pile onto him because he didn’t confess to something he didn’t do. Even expressed joy in the amount of People she had banned. She’s now Staff.

Though she’s gone, it’s still valid, but Sachimii spawned a poison headcrab directly behind me, and after the bleed out I tried to say it was glitched and went down even though I was using the console to speak. She just calls me a liar, refusing to believe me until Rabit and Liam were involved and actually did staff work to see that I was telling the truth. When I asked for an apology, Liam calls me the toxic one, and I had to literally argue why I just wanted an apology. It only stopped after Sachimii begrudgingly apologized.
She never had anything come from this, instead leaving staff and eventually getting kicked or banned from the Discord for something entirely unrelated.

 

[M!NT]

This is very aggressive for no reason, I put it in staff reports since it'd be moved here. Its a report to get my Houndeye Char back, if you want move this to PK appeals since what your implying, thats what this is. This is no 'I think kaffee should be removed', not in the slightest.

Then this thread is in the wrong place and needs to get locked.

This also, it just seems you wanna purge Xenians from existance. Even though they make good RP, and to void that would be voiding so much.
I would agree if it wasn't such a bad take, and it clearly only shows that you'd rather remove good RP then encourage it.

Stop putting words in my mouth.

Xenians are an alien race, of which most of them show no signs of intelligence and even fewer can speak/understand english or even humans. Houndeyes, panthereyes, headcrabs, etc. are unintelligent beasts, and humans cannot communicate them. Vortigaunts might be able to

Any RP that diverges from that should be voided, and is honestly cringy af.

I could spend 100 hours doing RP as a headcrab playing as a CP but, thats ridiculous and its fail RP. It doesn't make sense. If someone does it and it hasn't been approved by the auth team, then it has to be voided.

Do you think the rules do not apply to you?

 

[M!NT]

Though she’s gone, it’s still valid, but Sachimii spawned a poison headcrab directly behind me, and after the bleed out I tried to say it was glitched and went down even though I was using the console to speak. She just calls me a liar, refusing to believe me until Rabit and Liam were involved and actually did staff work to see that I was telling the truth. When I asked for an apology, Liam calls me the toxic one, and I had to literally argue why I just wanted an apology. It only stopped after Sachimii begrudgingly apologized.
She never had anything come from this, instead leaving staff and eventually getting kicked or banned from the Discord for something entirely unrelated.

Yes she made a mistake in that case, and Rabit and Liam got involved to make things right. This was clearly not 'swept under the rug' as you claimed.

Neonity as trial admin wrongfully banned Nesh after publicly telling him to “confess or be banned” and allowing others to dog pile onto him because he didn’t confess to something he didn’t do. Even expressed joy in the amount of People she had banned. She’s now Staff.

Ban got almost immediately appealed. Neonity has not acted this way since. Again, not 'swept under the rug' as you said earlier.