Implemented Allow relationships

[Plox]

Relationships have been banned oocly, we can’t even kiss anyone or hug, or do whatever.
I get banning in depth erp. No one wants to see that. But human relationships are a core part of roleplay, and some form of intimacy should be outlined in the rules on what isn’t and what is allowed

Allow kissing, hugging, and touching /me’s so we can actually build personal relationships.
but most importantly, outline what *isnt allowed* . Currently, we have no guidelines as to what describes erp. Erp to most people is just detailed sex rp. But there is no guidelines on it

 

[Sagsworth]

ERP should be banned

I'd be suprised if any Romance RP is banned, but it shouldn't be. If we can handle themes of oppression, authoritarian regimes and brutal and meaningless death, then I think we can handle hugging and kissing without blowing our topper.

 

[Plox]

Agreed. Once we have guidelines on what we can do then I would feel comfortable.

ERP should be banned

I'd be suprised if any Romance RP is banned, but it shouldn't be. If we can handle themes of oppression, authoritarian regimes and brutal and meaningless death, then I think we can handle hugging and kissing without blowing our topper.

Erp should be banned of course. However we have absolutely no guidelines on what erp is.
From what I have seen, admins are banning ALL forms of romance, pr anything related to the human body.
I got banned from the server for drawing stick figures fucking and selling them for 2 credits. Clearly romance rp is strictly banned in any shape or form, which is absurd.
there needs to be guidelines, or something allowing romance rp.

 

[Sagsworth]

I got banned from the server for drawing stick figures fucking and selling them for 2 credits. Clearly romance rp is strictly banned in any shape or form, which is absurd.

This seems like a stretch to me.

 

[Plox]

This seems like a stretch to me.

This seems like a stretch to me.

It’s a stretch cause we have no idea what the guidelines on romance rp is. What happened to me shouldn’t ever happen to anyone else.
From what Ive seen romance rp is completely banned, any hint of the human body is an immediate ban.
write out rules everyone can understand or explicitly allow some form of romance in the game. As it stands right now the admins have no idea what they are doing, and the players don’t know what to do

 

[Imperator RAD-X]

IC Relationships aren't banned. It's ERP that is banned. We've seen people kiss and hug IC, you can do this. Consider this suggestion practically pseudo-passively implemented by default.

 

[Plox]

IC Relationships aren't banned. It's ERP that is banned. We've seen people kiss and hug IC, you can do this. Consider this suggestion practically pseudo-passively implemented by default.

Thank you for clarifying on the kissing and hugging. But what the hell classifies as erp.
Is it just detailed sex acts? Where is the line drawn? I was banned for drawing stick figures fucking, so the line has to be between there and kiss rp. Place guidelines in the rules section, as “erp” is extremely vague to most people

 

[Kamilisha Haijulikani]

Thank you for clarifying on the kissing and hugging. But what the hell classifies as erp.
Is it just detailed sex acts? Where is the line drawn? I was banned for drawing stick figures fucking, so the line has to be between there and kiss rp. Place guidelines in the rules section, as “erp” is extremely vague to most people

I'm sorry that you got offended when you thought you were unable to make relationships IC similar to your real-life ability or lack there of. The line is drawn on any sexual act. It's not vague, it is common sense.

Kissing, hugging, holding hands, and things like that are not sexual acts.

Flashing your dick, sex, perversion, or crap like that are sexual acts.

 

[Plox]

I'm sorry that you got offended when you thought you were unable to make relationships IC similar to your real-life ability or lack there of. The line is drawn on any sexual act. It's not vague, it is common sense.

Kissing, hugging, holding hands, and things like that are not sexual acts.

Flashing your dick, sex, perversion, or crap like that are sexual acts.

Common sense isn’t a guideline. Why are you throwing OOC insults at me?

Like I said, the line needs to be drawn in the rules. Is f2b allowed? What classifies as perversion?
From what I have experienced romance rp of any sort is banned. Guideline it please in the rules

 

[Bodger]

ERP, meaning Erotic Role-Play, is the act of playing out a situation where something erotic happens. This isn't vague, as "erotic" things can be summed up as anything sexual or arousing. If your RomanceRP gets to the point of ERP, you have a some choices; F2B or Keep it in DM's. When we say ERP is banned, that means keep it out of the community, do it elsewhere if you want to, just not inside the community. This is not only to keep us happy, because we don't want to see two or more people e-sexing, but also to keep you happy as other people will most likely start to make fun of you if they see it, or harass you, or discriminate against you because of it.

 

[Plox]

ERP, meaning Erotic Role-Play, is the act of playing out a situation where something erotic happens. This isn't vague, as "erotic" things can be summed up as anything sexual or arousing. If your RomanceRP gets to the point of ERP, you have a some choices; F2B or Keep it in DM's. When we say ERP is banned, that means keep it out of the community, do it elsewhere if you want to, just not inside the community. This is not only to keep us happy, because we don't want to see two or more people e-sexing, but also to keep you happy as other people will most likely start to make fun of you if they see it, or harass you, or discriminate against you because of it.

There is no guidelines showing what you mean by erp. You don’t seem to be getting it
where does the line cross from erp to romance rp? I was banned for drawing stick figures having sex, so the line has to be drawn so people can understand so people don’t get banned like I did

is rubbing someone’s leg allowed? Is fade2black allowed?
when you mean dms, do you mean steam dms or dms in the server?
Just make some guidelines for fucks sake. “Erp banned” is so vague, no one wants to do romance rp as we don’t know what is and isn’t allowed

 

[Bodger]

There is no guidelines showing what you mean by erp. You don’t seem to be getting it
where does the line cross from erp to romance rp? I was banned for drawing stick figures having sex, so the line has to be drawn so people can understand so people don’t get banned like I did

is rubbing someone’s leg allowed? Is fade2black allowed?
when you mean dms, do you mean steam dms or dms in the server?
Just make some guidelines for fucks sake. “Erp banned” is so vague, no one wants to do romance rp as we don’t know what is and isn’t allowed

As I said, F2B (Fade 2 Black) is allowed as one of your options. And no, not on-server PM's, admins don't want to see that when searching logs. As for actions taken in-game, we'll take your example, what is the intention with rubbing the leg? Is it to provide comfort and be an act of kindness/friendliness? Or is it "sensual" rubbing to try and arouse the other person?

Comfort rubbing would be fine, sensual wouldn't be. We can't write guidelines for every single situation as there are too many. What we can do is say that specifically erotic/lewd/sensual/sexual actions are not allowed. I don't understand how that is hard to determine for you, kissing and touching RP can be done in a variety of ways, both erotic and not erotic, and it's not hard to know in the situation which is which.

"ERP Banned" isn't vague as it's clearly stating what kind of RP is banned, the erotic kind. Kissing isn't banned, neither is touching, but specifically erotic kissing or touching IS.

 

[Kamilisha Haijulikani]

As I said, F2B (Fade 2 Black) is allowed as one of your options. And no, not on-server PM's, admins don't want to see that when searching logs. As for actions taken in-game, we'll take your example, what is the intention with rubbing the leg? Is it to provide comfort and be an act of kindness/friendliness? Or is it "sensual" rubbing to try and arouse the other person?

Comfort rubbing would be fine, sensual wouldn't be. We can't write guidelines for every single situation as there are too many. What we can do is say that specifically erotic/lewd/sensual/sexual actions are not allowed. I don't understand how that is hard to determine for you, kissing and touching RP can be done in a variety of ways, both erotic and not erotic, and it's not hard to know in the situation which is which.

"ERP Banned" isn't vague as it's clearly stating what kind of RP is banned, the erotic kind. Kissing isn't banned, neither is touching, but specifically erotic kissing or touching IS.

Well said.

There is no guidelines showing what you mean by erp. You don’t seem to be getting it
where does the line cross from erp to romance rp? I was banned for drawing stick figures having sex, so the line has to be drawn so people can understand so people don’t get banned like I did

is rubbing someone’s leg allowed? Is fade2black allowed?
when you mean dms, do you mean steam dms or dms in the server?
Just make some guidelines for fucks sake. “Erp banned” is so vague, no one wants to do romance rp as we don’t know what is and isn’t allowed

The Erotic Roleplay rule is not vague at all. I don't believe it needs any clarification because as soon as you understand the definition of eroticism, then you pretty much understand the rule. You're pulling up a classical strawman argument, categorizing similar or the same actions whose intent and meanings differ under the same category. It is important to understand the intent or meaning behind an action and its inherent nature. If it is a sexual act in nature, regardless of the intent of it, like grabbing someone's junk or pity sex for example (equinox is very familiar with that), then it is banned. If it is an act that isn't necessarily sexual in nature, like rubbing someone's leg or kissing them, but the intent is sexual, then it is banned.
(also imo, roleplaying with any mention of a sexual organ should and probably is against the rules. Not as in regular talking, but say for example you're rping peeing and make mentions of whipping out your dick or some shit, which should count as erotic roleplay.)

All this is summed up within the definition of a single word.

I hope to God you don't kiss your mother with the intent to seduce her.

 

[Plox]

As I said, F2B (Fade 2 Black) is allowed as one of your options. And no, not on-server PM's, admins don't want to see that when searching logs. As for actions taken in-game, we'll take your example, what is the intention with rubbing the leg? Is it to provide comfort and be an act of kindness/friendliness? Or is it "sensual" rubbing to try and arouse the other person?

Comfort rubbing would be fine, sensual wouldn't be. We can't write guidelines for every single situation as there are too many. What we can do is say that specifically erotic/lewd/sensual/sexual actions are not allowed. I don't understand how that is hard to determine for you, kissing and touching RP can be done in a variety of ways, both erotic and not erotic, and it's not hard to know in the situation which is which.

"ERP Banned" isn't vague as it's clearly stating what kind of RP is banned, the erotic kind. Kissing isn't banned, neither is touching, but specifically erotic kissing or touching IS.

Ok thank you for going into more detail.
I am glad you put some sort of line in the sand.

However, none of this is in the rules. It is just an unsaid rule. I and others would not have been banned if these where clarified in the rules to allow such actions.

My request is simple, add these guidelines about romance rp to the rules to say what is and isnt allowed. as of now, it is just an unsaid rule.

 

[Sagsworth]

Ok thank you for going into more detail.
I am glad you put some sort of line in the sand.

However, none of this is in the rules. It is just an unsaid rule. I and others would not have been banned if these where clarified in the rules to allow such actions.

My request is simple, add these guidelines about romance rp to the rules to say what is and isnt allowed. as of now, it is just an unsaid rule.

"Erotic roleplay is roleplay that is erotic"

Spoiler: Definition of erotic to help you out

Only you are conflating friendly comfort, romance and erotic actions.

 

[Spine]

There, you are allowed. Keep your erp, if you really want it in private. We can close the thread ig.

 

[Robert]

Done. Though the defintion of "erotic" is pretty easy to find....

 

[Spine]

Done. Though the defintion of "erotic" is pretty easy to find....

I can't find what I never engaged into.