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ItsLiam Request / Investigation

ActuallyRakaesa

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Hello. Neonity encouraged me to open a formal request here regarding the Volksfront, namely ItsLiam, having IC knowledge of my character making Intranet posts. I currently don't have access to the Intranet channel, so I can't go and fetch screenshots of all of the messages.

ItsLiam recently claimed in my PK appeal that my character had threatened his characters life. This has never actually happened. When I asked for an example, he provided an Intranet message in which my character, Keim, anonymously posted that they were under observation for recent actions.

The issue is that my character has only told a single soul about him even having intranet access, and only to Pathfinder that he was the one who made these posts. I'm confident that @Rabithunter did not inform them IC, and the Volksfront's targeting / hatred of Keim was going on well before he told Path about it in any case.

When I called ItsLiam out on metagaming in the PK appeal, he didn't respond to it. Later, when I then called him out on it in the underground Discord, he said that he spoke to Neonity about it.

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After I conferred with Neonity in DMs, she told me that the logins she told Liam about were the 'anonymous' logins used on the Intranet, and not a characters real name. My character never actually gave a name or even an alias to @Gutsy 's character during the signup process, so this name would be something random. Keim has never at any point revealed his identity in any of his Intranet messages and has remained entirely anonymous. No signatures, completely different speech pattern to his own, the whole nine yards. The one meetup he arranged for through the Intranet, he wore a CP uniform and mask to the meetup to maintain anonymity, including faking an accent.


Under these circumstances, it is simply impossible for the Volksfront to know who the messages were sent by, so this is metagame. What I don't know is if it was done maliciously or simply due to some sort of misunderstanding, so I'm not hard calling for a ban here--but there was definitely some meta that has affected my character significantly. It also lead to ItsLiam's character trying to stop my character from being helped medically in the situation that lead up to the recently appealed PK.

Thank you in advance!

EDIT: Also massive, consistent toxicity
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EDIT2:
Let's add more OOC-driven actions and assisting with an attempted PK for good measure.

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Hey, sorry for the long wait this flew under the radar for us.

But we did take a look at everything and came to the conclusion that yes, Liam had no way to know that it was your character who spoke over the relay, but likewise it was just a mistake and not something worth punishing.

As far as I know, nothing ever came from this. If you have anything more to bring up feel free to do so I'll leave this open for a few days.
 
Hey, sorry for the long wait this flew under the radar for us.

But we did take a look at everything and came to the conclusion that yes, Liam had no way to know that it was your character who spoke over the relay, but likewise it was just a mistake and not something worth punishing.

As far as I know, nothing ever came from this. If you have anything more to bring up feel free to do so I'll leave this open for a few days.
I hope you read the edits, particularly #2 which was about an entirely separate situation in which he tried to contribute to a PK against me again, long after the intranet situation.
 
I hope you read the edits, particularly #2 which was about an entirely separate situation in which he tried to contribute to a PK against me again, long after the intranet situation.
I did, yeah. As I recall that was dealt with and is a long way in the past now. I know there has been some arguing between you two for a while.

As it stands the issue here really seems to be just a genuine mistake; regardless of whether his intentions were invalid or not this seems to boil down to simple miscommunication.

With that though, feel free to post any further reports if things like this continue.

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