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Overzealous CPs + Cameras

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First day on City 24 and the CP/Camera system is unacceptable. Cameras will go nuts the moment you open your steam overlay even if you are against a wall when you do it an don't move so pretty much any time you press the shift key. Because of this, I've had CPs run a marathon to run over to me and clobber me to death even when I explain to them what happened. They see that I didn't run and they know clear and well why it's doing it but they ignore any means of explanation cause they are just egar to get some swings in. Latest case involved two cops C24:RL.KING-4 & C24:CP.VICE-2 played by @Dark and @DanteeZe which lead to a piss poor engagement which I request involves investigation. Left my apartment to go grab a ration when the camera went off above me (I figured it was because of me using the overlay again but I'll get to why it went of in a moment). Next thing I know I cop dashes over to me tells me to wall it. I'm confused because I thought it was quite obvious I wasn't running. Against my explanation he clobbers me in the middle of the street and drags me away. When I wake the two tell me that apparently I was on BOL and it was a glitch in the system. They refused to tell me the reason why or what the BOL message said but regardless there needs to be a clamp down on situations where people were obviously not running cause this is getting really old really fast. Never have I seen a server where CPs act this nuts over the lowest level of violation.
 
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I think cameras should only go off when there is an unidentified citizen (slum start) or BOL
 
Fucking agreed, I've heard about three or four cases of this happening. Even if it was IC, it's meaningless oppression. It's not logical to do that, and at that rate, no one will be a citizen. The broke ass cameras need to be fixed, or the CP's need better rules
 
Tommy Towers said:
Fucking agreed, I've heard about three or four cases of this happening. Even if it was IC, it's meaningless oppression. It's not logical to do that, and at that rate, no one will be a citizen. The broke ass cameras need to be fixed, or the CP's need better rules
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Agreed dude, this is some next level BS and it's gonna kill citizen RP in a snap.
 
I liked a CW camera script which'd tag you if you ran for more than like half a second? UG used it. was nice
 
Just want to say that your opinions are very widely shared up at the top of the chain, along within the playerbase and across various elements of the staff. We're going to do something about it because not only are first impressions important, but if there's anything I've seen even in base Half Life: 2 that is ultraly important, it's this:

Tommy Towers said:
Even if it was IC, it's meaningless oppression. It's not logical to do that, and at that rate, no one will be a citizen.
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If this was 2013, this would be "acceptable", but that's seven years ago. People have stated that while passive is great - the CPs coming in to wreck-ball that even when it's at its peak and things are pretty calm.

I've seen more than just what's spoken about on the forums, here. I'll get back to this thread ASAP with updates.
 
If the map itself wasn't City Twenty Four, I'd have no issue with Cops crying about running; though this map is highly anti-walk to players. The Map suggests you should run to get to places, not walk.
 
SpookyWolf07 said:
The Map suggests you should run to get to places, not walk.
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It would gut ten minutes of my time trying to walk through the street, that's something everyone would be happy about with their character's as well.
 
RogueSynapse said:
Cameras will go nuts the moment you open your steam overlay even if you are against a wall when you do it an don't move so pretty much any time you press the shift key.
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Might wanna check your facts by testing it out in-game instead of shitting on cops because of it. It was removed recently and not present today at all.

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They see that I didn't run and they know clear and well why it's doing it but they ignore any means of explanation cause they are just egar to get some swings in.
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Sorry for doing my job and not wishing to get into another OOC argument.
 
This video hurts your argument Dark...why would you post this?
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Might wanna check your facts by testing it out in-game instead of shitting on cops because of it. It was removed recently and not present today at all.


Sorry for doing my job and not wishing to get into another OOC argument.
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i accidentally tapped the shift button and had 3 CPs tail me halfway across the city. I didn't stop for them and they eventually just decided to do other shit
 
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Might wanna check your facts by testing it out in-game instead of shitting on cops because of it. It was removed recently and not present today at all.
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Wrong again.



Thanks for proving my point btw.
 
Let's get this sorted. While I agree there's implications that need to be checked in the faction- this takes a twist on the situation regarding Rogue and Dark.

So both video evidences show a citizen is marked on the Be-On-Lookout system for Civil Protection in the opening seconds of Dark's video. Though at the same time Rogue was in steam chat and caused a sprint. That's GMOD for you being what it is - unavoidable. It appears that regardless whether you sprinting or not, the camera would have tagged you as you were listed on the "BE-ON-LOOKOUT" status within the Citizen Index & Combine Registry. A very rare occurrence where IC-OOC issues stem together almost immediately, but not in the way we think.

@RogueSynapse I don't think they hit you for sprinting, but it definitely was an issue that stems from a unit that did not take you off that BOL list and got you into that situation. It flagged you as a wanted suspect, what ever that may have been.

@Dark Didn't know this, and thought it was a clear indication that he was wanted. He moved in thinking it was all normal, but the evidence shows a unit was fucking around with the BOL-Status and in the end screwed up, causing the inevitable situation here. Sad, but shouldn't have happened.

TLDR - misunderstanding.
 
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