Wraygun
Former Headcop
- Joined
- Sep 21, 2020
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Who doesn't know this: you find yourself on the server, conversing with others, making IC acquaintances, friends, but also enemies. Safe to say, the more you stick around, the more people you gather around you. The more time you invest, the more ideas come to your mind. It is right then and there, when you get to plan your plot. Either with care, or with spontanity. There comes the day, when you carry out the plot however.
"Charles Nitch has been charbanned!", says the notification above your screen. This would be it. This is normally the end of your plot, and satisfied with the results you walk away. Except you don't, because despite the fact that a staff member has indeed overseen your plan and its execution, you get asked to join a Discord group chat because I have a LOOOT of justifying to do for my IC actions. Through OOC means.
So far so good, no complaints from me. Yet, lo and behold, your progress gets undone next day. You're being told, your character remains banned, and you find your entire progress wiped in the faction that you've been whitelisted for an entire eon.
Let's be more specific.
I've been a rank leader here, and last night, I was demoted all the way down to i5 with my character banned. The last part irking me the most, I allocated an entire authorization and time for it. It's frustrating, even if we pretend that the punishment fits the "crime".
Noah Majors, who has garnered a lot of notoriety around the garrison. He has caused enough indirect harm that makes a good portion of the cops to hate him. I decided to take IC matters in my own hands, and deal with this IC issue appropriately by getting him killed.
Bear in mind: Noah Majors is a civilian that was hired as an MCP facilitator, he isn't whitelisted for the MCP faction. Therefore, in my and many people's eyes, he is a Combine-affiliated character.
Majors doesn't fall under any of these, and before carrying this out, I checked with the rules specifically because it doesn't state ANYWHERE that MCP affiliated characters are considered Combine characters. It's utter non-sense to require an entire rogue auth to kill a snitch.
What is also non-sensical is that ICly, Majors has done his absolute best to upset almost every unit he comes into contact with, and it is somehow expected from a rank leaeder to somehow take a liking to him, despite refusing to comply with my orders ICly and being a constant pain the ass to my unit.
As anyone can see, Ultima brings out several points here which actually need some explanation. The first and foremost being: we were asked by @JustDanny in-game if we have PK auths. I told him no, and there is no requirement to write up an entire auth to PK someone if the IC criteria is met.
This should've been argued in a PK appeal, but unbeknownst to me at the time, Noah Majors was unbanned, as if nothing happened. I did PM @Cjtn10 in-game and asked him about it, because I wanted to know if he had one by chance, given the fact that I didn't think of making one. The IC criteria (which I will get to in a bit) matched, and we carried out the execution.
Secondly: the evidence is "INCREDIBLY unreasonable", citing how Majors got PK'd just because he "threatened us with OTA", and "didn't leave my office when I said so". No, those are the things are not why he died. I'm extremely disappointed that I didn't get the chance to explain any of it in a PK appeal and I don't think it's right for him to get unbanned without going through the same proceedures as any other player. But regardless.
Majors has caused indirect harm to a unit of mine, to the point where I was ordered by my higher-ups to cut him a finger. I think it's completely justified to take matters into my own hands, and deal with the problem in my own way, given that some form of harm has occured.
1. I don't need a PK auth to get rid of someone, if the evidence and IC actions add up. They do.
2. It's nowhere defined that I need a rogue auth for a tier five civilian that is affiliated with the MCP.
I can go on and on, but I said everything that needed to be said. My whole conclusion is that there's too much red tape for something as simple as a PK. Willard parades itself as being hardcore, but the moment someone tries to do something it's immediately taken OOC and you're somehow being framed as a rule breaker.
What's even more outrageous, is that the PK manager himself can't be bothered to make an appeal like any normal person and let me argue my case there. It's unjust to frame this as a rule break given that it was neither specified, nor was it "loopholed" as Ultima likes to express it. Not to mention the entire rank and progrerss wipe, where my IC progress was resetted, and subsequently, character getting banned.
"Charles Nitch has been charbanned!", says the notification above your screen. This would be it. This is normally the end of your plot, and satisfied with the results you walk away. Except you don't, because despite the fact that a staff member has indeed overseen your plan and its execution, you get asked to join a Discord group chat because I have a LOOOT of justifying to do for my IC actions. Through OOC means.
So far so good, no complaints from me. Yet, lo and behold, your progress gets undone next day. You're being told, your character remains banned, and you find your entire progress wiped in the faction that you've been whitelisted for an entire eon.
Let's be more specific.
I've been a rank leader here, and last night, I was demoted all the way down to i5 with my character banned. The last part irking me the most, I allocated an entire authorization and time for it. It's frustrating, even if we pretend that the punishment fits the "crime".
Noah Majors, who has garnered a lot of notoriety around the garrison. He has caused enough indirect harm that makes a good portion of the cops to hate him. I decided to take IC matters in my own hands, and deal with this IC issue appropriately by getting him killed.
Bear in mind: Noah Majors is a civilian that was hired as an MCP facilitator, he isn't whitelisted for the MCP faction. Therefore, in my and many people's eyes, he is a Combine-affiliated character.
Majors doesn't fall under any of these, and before carrying this out, I checked with the rules specifically because it doesn't state ANYWHERE that MCP affiliated characters are considered Combine characters. It's utter non-sense to require an entire rogue auth to kill a snitch.
What is also non-sensical is that ICly, Majors has done his absolute best to upset almost every unit he comes into contact with, and it is somehow expected from a rank leaeder to somehow take a liking to him, despite refusing to comply with my orders ICly and being a constant pain the ass to my unit.
As anyone can see, Ultima brings out several points here which actually need some explanation. The first and foremost being: we were asked by @JustDanny in-game if we have PK auths. I told him no, and there is no requirement to write up an entire auth to PK someone if the IC criteria is met.
This should've been argued in a PK appeal, but unbeknownst to me at the time, Noah Majors was unbanned, as if nothing happened. I did PM @Cjtn10 in-game and asked him about it, because I wanted to know if he had one by chance, given the fact that I didn't think of making one. The IC criteria (which I will get to in a bit) matched, and we carried out the execution.
Secondly: the evidence is "INCREDIBLY unreasonable", citing how Majors got PK'd just because he "threatened us with OTA", and "didn't leave my office when I said so". No, those are the things are not why he died. I'm extremely disappointed that I didn't get the chance to explain any of it in a PK appeal and I don't think it's right for him to get unbanned without going through the same proceedures as any other player. But regardless.
Majors has caused indirect harm to a unit of mine, to the point where I was ordered by my higher-ups to cut him a finger. I think it's completely justified to take matters into my own hands, and deal with the problem in my own way, given that some form of harm has occured.
1. I don't need a PK auth to get rid of someone, if the evidence and IC actions add up. They do.
2. It's nowhere defined that I need a rogue auth for a tier five civilian that is affiliated with the MCP.
I can go on and on, but I said everything that needed to be said. My whole conclusion is that there's too much red tape for something as simple as a PK. Willard parades itself as being hardcore, but the moment someone tries to do something it's immediately taken OOC and you're somehow being framed as a rule breaker.
What's even more outrageous, is that the PK manager himself can't be bothered to make an appeal like any normal person and let me argue my case there. It's unjust to frame this as a rule break given that it was neither specified, nor was it "loopholed" as Ultima likes to express it. Not to mention the entire rank and progrerss wipe, where my IC progress was resetted, and subsequently, character getting banned.
