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The current state of guns
A serious issue that needs addressing.
The damage output of weapons is severely lacking, to the point where even low-tier guns outshine what should be considered high-tier options.
It's frustrating to see that an MP7 performs better than a G3 or a Mini14, and a Pulse SMG outperforms other weapons across the board.
I handed in a 60 damage gun, a scout for a gun that does 9 damage?
For a rifle that does the damage of a HANDGUN.
EVEN MY GLOCK DOES MORE DAMAGE THAN THIS SUPPOSED HIGH POWERED RIFLE 7,62 × 39 mm GUN.
Recent events have highlighted the problem vividly. I found myself firing at OTA with a Mini14, expecting its supposed power to make an impact, but it was as if my shots were being ignored. The damage output was so pitiful that the OTA didn't even seem to notice the shots raining down on them. This isn't just a matter of inconvenience; it's a fundamental flaw that needs urgent attention.
It's not enough to just complain about the state of guns without offering solutions. The solution is clear: guns need to be lethal. They should pack a punch and make players fear being on the receiving end. Whether it's a pistol, a shotgun, or a high-caliber rifle, each shot should be felt, and survival shouldn't be guaranteed after taking multiple hits specially to those without armor.
One server that got weapon balance right is "Nebulous." Their guns felt impactful and dangerous. A simple PM pistol could take down any OTA with just a few well-placed shots to the head. This is the kind of balance we need – where skill and strategy matter more than the type of gun or armor a player has.
Finding OTA looking the wrong way as they cross a bridge and delivering a well placed headshot with a revolver to kill one, felt good, it felt right, the gun felt as powerful and it sounded and so did theirs guns as they masterfully mowed us down with proper precision from alien guns that melted armor. You could not survive a burst of that thing with no armor, as it should be.
It's time for developers to take action and rebalance the weapons to restore the thrill and intensity of gunplay. Players should feel empowered by their weapons, not frustrated by their ineffectiveness. Let's make guns lethal again and restore the excitement to the game.
ARMOR
Let's emphasize the significance of armor. In addition to ensuring the lethality of guns, armor should play a crucial role in prolonging survival. It ought to provide an extra layer of protection, enabling players to withstand a few additional hits before succumbing. While armor shouldn't render players invincible, it should offer a chance of survival beyond just a few stray shots, even if not an entire magazine's worth.
The frustration of encountering opponents who easily escape while absorbing shots from low-damage guns is all too familiar. It's disheartening to catch someone off guard, only for them to swiftly vanish around a corner, seemingly impervious to the damage dealt. This scenario underscores the urgent need for a recalibration of weapon effectiveness. Players shouldn't feel powerless in such encounters, where opponents evade with apparent ease despite being targeted with gunfire. Balancing the lethality of weapons is essential to restore the equilibrium of engagements and ensure that skillful plays are duly rewarded.
Recoil, spread, and precision are critical elements that significantly impact the gameplay experience. Recoil serves as a crucial balancing factor, requiring players to hone their gun skills and make strategic decisions based on their distance from the enemy. Should they opt for full-auto fire or take precise shots in single-fire mode? Is their weapon suitable for the current engagement range? These are the questions players should contemplate.
However, random spread and lack of precision can be infuriating. There's nothing more frustrating than carefully lining up a shot on a stationary target, only for the bullet to veer off course due to excessive spread or perceived inaccuracies in the weapon's handling. Guns are inherently precise tools, and they should remain as such. Recoil, on the other hand, should serve as the primary deterrent against indiscriminate full-auto fire across long distances. It should encourage players to exercise patience, take aim, and fire deliberately to manage recoil effectively. By striking a balance between recoil and precision, be both challenging and rewarding, rewarding players who demonstrate skill and discipline in their approach to combat.
IF you are getting shot then it's for a reason. It's to kill you. Point.
Developing and testing
When it comes to developing and testing new features, such as gun performance, there are often challenges in understanding how they will perform in various situations. Factors like time constraints and limited resources can make it difficult to thoroughly test it.
However, there are tools available to address these challenges. One idea is to use the development server instead of limiting testing to specific times or situations, we could open up the development server for continuous testing by players. This could involve creating an arena environment where players can freely access vendors to test out changes made to the guns.
By allowing players to experiment with the guns in different scenarios and against various opponents, we can gather valuable feedback on their performance. Players could spend as much time as needed testing the guns in a fun versus battle and reporting their findings, helping the development team fine-tune the weapons for the main server.
This approach not only provides a more comprehensive testing environment but also fosters community involvement in the development process, ultimately leading to more informed decisions and better-balanced gameplay.
EDITED: Focus on the issue
I believe people are losing sight of the core issue. There's an excessive fixation on OTA. We must recognize that combat balance cannot solely revolve around addressing OTA concerns. While it's undeniable that OTAs are currently imbalanced with their overwhelmingly powerful weapons, we must also acknowledge the weakness of other firearms.
Even against unarmored targets, it takes an entire magazine to kill them. Furthermore, players can easily evade confrontation by how their running speed is, the lack of momentum when turning, the lack of penalty when running backwards. It shouldn't require a full magazine from an AKSU to subdue an unarmored individual. Armor should be a crucial factor in combat survivability. Engaging in combat without proper armor should be strongly discouraged; one should fear facing a firearm without adequate protection.
However, the reality is different. When confronted by an CP or a rebel, individuals often evade effortlessly, exploiting issues such as hit registration, frame rate, and the underwhelming damage output of our guns. Let's see an example: a video of a lone unit outnumbered by rebels, yet escapes due to the aforementioned issues.
Instead of fixating solely on OTA, we must address the broader issue encompassing the state of all weapons.
A serious issue that needs addressing.
The damage output of weapons is severely lacking, to the point where even low-tier guns outshine what should be considered high-tier options.
It's frustrating to see that an MP7 performs better than a G3 or a Mini14, and a Pulse SMG outperforms other weapons across the board.
I handed in a 60 damage gun, a scout for a gun that does 9 damage?
For a rifle that does the damage of a HANDGUN.
EVEN MY GLOCK DOES MORE DAMAGE THAN THIS SUPPOSED HIGH POWERED RIFLE 7,62 × 39 mm GUN.
Recent events have highlighted the problem vividly. I found myself firing at OTA with a Mini14, expecting its supposed power to make an impact, but it was as if my shots were being ignored. The damage output was so pitiful that the OTA didn't even seem to notice the shots raining down on them. This isn't just a matter of inconvenience; it's a fundamental flaw that needs urgent attention.
It's not enough to just complain about the state of guns without offering solutions. The solution is clear: guns need to be lethal. They should pack a punch and make players fear being on the receiving end. Whether it's a pistol, a shotgun, or a high-caliber rifle, each shot should be felt, and survival shouldn't be guaranteed after taking multiple hits specially to those without armor.
One server that got weapon balance right is "Nebulous." Their guns felt impactful and dangerous. A simple PM pistol could take down any OTA with just a few well-placed shots to the head. This is the kind of balance we need – where skill and strategy matter more than the type of gun or armor a player has.
Finding OTA looking the wrong way as they cross a bridge and delivering a well placed headshot with a revolver to kill one, felt good, it felt right, the gun felt as powerful and it sounded and so did theirs guns as they masterfully mowed us down with proper precision from alien guns that melted armor. You could not survive a burst of that thing with no armor, as it should be.
It's time for developers to take action and rebalance the weapons to restore the thrill and intensity of gunplay. Players should feel empowered by their weapons, not frustrated by their ineffectiveness. Let's make guns lethal again and restore the excitement to the game.
ARMOR
Let's emphasize the significance of armor. In addition to ensuring the lethality of guns, armor should play a crucial role in prolonging survival. It ought to provide an extra layer of protection, enabling players to withstand a few additional hits before succumbing. While armor shouldn't render players invincible, it should offer a chance of survival beyond just a few stray shots, even if not an entire magazine's worth.
The frustration of encountering opponents who easily escape while absorbing shots from low-damage guns is all too familiar. It's disheartening to catch someone off guard, only for them to swiftly vanish around a corner, seemingly impervious to the damage dealt. This scenario underscores the urgent need for a recalibration of weapon effectiveness. Players shouldn't feel powerless in such encounters, where opponents evade with apparent ease despite being targeted with gunfire. Balancing the lethality of weapons is essential to restore the equilibrium of engagements and ensure that skillful plays are duly rewarded.
Recoil, spread, and precision are critical elements that significantly impact the gameplay experience. Recoil serves as a crucial balancing factor, requiring players to hone their gun skills and make strategic decisions based on their distance from the enemy. Should they opt for full-auto fire or take precise shots in single-fire mode? Is their weapon suitable for the current engagement range? These are the questions players should contemplate.
However, random spread and lack of precision can be infuriating. There's nothing more frustrating than carefully lining up a shot on a stationary target, only for the bullet to veer off course due to excessive spread or perceived inaccuracies in the weapon's handling. Guns are inherently precise tools, and they should remain as such. Recoil, on the other hand, should serve as the primary deterrent against indiscriminate full-auto fire across long distances. It should encourage players to exercise patience, take aim, and fire deliberately to manage recoil effectively. By striking a balance between recoil and precision, be both challenging and rewarding, rewarding players who demonstrate skill and discipline in their approach to combat.
IF you are getting shot then it's for a reason. It's to kill you. Point.
Developing and testing
When it comes to developing and testing new features, such as gun performance, there are often challenges in understanding how they will perform in various situations. Factors like time constraints and limited resources can make it difficult to thoroughly test it.
However, there are tools available to address these challenges. One idea is to use the development server instead of limiting testing to specific times or situations, we could open up the development server for continuous testing by players. This could involve creating an arena environment where players can freely access vendors to test out changes made to the guns.
By allowing players to experiment with the guns in different scenarios and against various opponents, we can gather valuable feedback on their performance. Players could spend as much time as needed testing the guns in a fun versus battle and reporting their findings, helping the development team fine-tune the weapons for the main server.
This approach not only provides a more comprehensive testing environment but also fosters community involvement in the development process, ultimately leading to more informed decisions and better-balanced gameplay.
EDITED: Focus on the issue
I believe people are losing sight of the core issue. There's an excessive fixation on OTA. We must recognize that combat balance cannot solely revolve around addressing OTA concerns. While it's undeniable that OTAs are currently imbalanced with their overwhelmingly powerful weapons, we must also acknowledge the weakness of other firearms.
Even against unarmored targets, it takes an entire magazine to kill them. Furthermore, players can easily evade confrontation by how their running speed is, the lack of momentum when turning, the lack of penalty when running backwards. It shouldn't require a full magazine from an AKSU to subdue an unarmored individual. Armor should be a crucial factor in combat survivability. Engaging in combat without proper armor should be strongly discouraged; one should fear facing a firearm without adequate protection.
However, the reality is different. When confronted by an CP or a rebel, individuals often evade effortlessly, exploiting issues such as hit registration, frame rate, and the underwhelming damage output of our guns. Let's see an example: a video of a lone unit outnumbered by rebels, yet escapes due to the aforementioned issues.
Instead of fixating solely on OTA, we must address the broader issue encompassing the state of all weapons.
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