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Denied The Civil Protection Solution, or, "For the love of god, remove the fem model."

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Candle

Candle

leave me alone :(
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Topic/subject: Force the female cop model to male upon masking, or replace it with an edit of Nebulous's.

Whom it may concern: You. (And cops, probably.)

Summary: I mean, no one really likes the female models. They use the civilian animations, are animated in an insufferably anime-girl way that looks (subjectively) bad when used as a cop, and while being fun for some aspects, are usually the butts of jokes.

In depth analysis of the issue: Bespoke 'thin' versions of metrocops that use female models present a weird vibe, and can be replaced with model/dev edits.

Suggestion for improvement: Nebulous managed to fix this in the past by having a normal civil protection model, removing the male heads and placing in female ones on the same male animation block, then by switching the entire model to the masked model to allow for more bodygroups as both civvie and metrocop versions. civvie ones normal male animations could have more options for hair, skins, etc.

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even puts them in lil hoods that could be bodygrouped1748854471399.png

plus there's even npc-less alien grunt models in here..
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anyway: short version is this: i think it'd be worth picking thru. i even made a special little collection for the content seen above, to dissect for good parts

pleaase consider this. it'd be some work to manage but i think it'd be well worth it. also i'll throw like 20 bucks into the communal pool to whoever does this. does this server do bounties? it should. anyway peace
 
Whilst the femcop models are certainly an issue, there's not a day in hell we're switching to nebulous models, or anything that isn't compatible with Willard's unique bodygroup set that are exclusive to the models we use
 
This has been suggested before and denied by Atle himself as well.

The modeler who is responsible for our OWF models is currently busy IRL and likely has a couple of other model job related matters to attend to and fulfilling this wish is just currently not a priority at all.

Though I will let @Atle comment on this and give his final word/opinion as it is his domain not mine!

If he accepts it and hands it to the modelers then so be it but until then, this is likely remain wishful thinking.
 
i will personally provide atle one (1) can of Purple Cheese Drank if this is blessed
 
I do think that the 'hourglass figure' of the female civil protection model betrays the serious roleplay nature of its role, nor does it serve as a good figure for new players to see. It's hard to imagine someone with an overly exaggerated 'feminine' body oppressing the world as a traitor to their own species.

Think of it like this.

Getting tortured by a cop

Compared to

Getting tortured by a cop with curves.


To be extremely blunt, I think the model should be less sexualised, if not completely swapped out with the male body. I know people like @Eviction Notice that have swapped out their female model for a male model when they took off their mask by asking another admin, and I personally enjoyed that experience, but I would rather not have to ask an admin to replace my model every time I took my mask off, etc.
 
Marco said:
I do think that the 'hourglass figure' of the female civil protection model betrays the serious roleplay nature of its role, nor does it serve as a good figure for new players to see. It's hard to imagine someone with an overly exaggerated 'feminine' body oppressing the world as a traitor to their own species.

Think of it like this.

Getting tortured by a cop

Compared to

Getting tortured by a cop with curves.


To be extremely blunt, I think the model should be less sexualised, if not completely swapped out with the male body. I know people like @Eviction Notice that have swapped out their female model for a male model when they took off their mask by asking another admin, and I personally enjoyed that experience, but I would rather not have to ask an admin to replace my model every time I took my mask off, etc.
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exactly! like. even just popping the female heads on the male bodies would be gr8. they dont have skins anyway lmao, yk?
 
Marco said:
I do think that the 'hourglass figure' of the female civil protection model betrays the serious roleplay nature of its role, nor does it serve as a good figure for new players to see. It's hard to imagine someone with an overly exaggerated 'feminine' body oppressing the world as a traitor to their own species.

Think of it like this.

Getting tortured by a cop

Compared to

Getting tortured by a cop with curves.


To be extremely blunt, I think the model should be less sexualised, if not completely swapped out with the male body. I know people like @Eviction Notice that have swapped out their female model for a male model when they took off their mask by asking another admin, and I personally enjoyed that experience, but I would rather not have to ask an admin to replace my model every time I took my mask off, etc.
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To be fair this can be automated with code. Couple lines.
 
If (again @Atle) doesn’t want the model alternative but the code solution then sure, it can absolutely be done and be configured client side to allow people to decide what “model” they have mask on or mask off but until the Lord himself says something….

We shall wait :approve:
 
To add on my previous statement, I do think that female models could work, but they need to optimised, fixed, and adapted to better fit the setting their in
 
honestly current model is fine, the issue is the animations. just switch them over to the male rig / give them civipro anims (stunstick, etc,) and it'd be fine. they prance around like princesses
 
I try to honeypot cops all the time, so this would make my life a lot harder if I couldnt tell the babes from the bros.


dont ruin my money mentality man...
 
Hello @Candle

I bring unfortunate (yet expected) news... While your suggestion and that of those before you are good and will eventually be done, currently it is not an important issue that requires us to direct resources towards thus we have to DENY your suggestion.

Best I can offer right now is the option to have an alternative model for when a civil protection player equips their mask with the unmasked cop having their default model.
 
MrMindBlow said:
Best I can offer right now is the option to have an alternative model for when a civil protection player equips their mask with the unmasked cop having their default model.
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yeah do that :)
 
Denied as stated above but handled differently for OWF forces.

They will have the choice to be either male or female model when they equip a civil protection officer mask.

As for the model suggestion:

"
Model issue, modellers currently very busy... if real at all.

Cannot do this at this time.

Denied.
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