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Implemented Abusing Surveillance

Alfie

Radio Bob Approved
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Nov 30, 2020
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Look, this is getting out of hand now. The massive system of cameras upon cameras all over the map is now at the point of becoming ridiculous. Everyday i walk upon the same streets. Seeing some Admin fly around 'OOC' putting up more cameras all around the place without any RP whatsoever. At the beginning of the launch, the entire camera situation was relatively alright but still abused. But right now... This is becoming wayyyy too much. I understand we live in an Alien dystopia, but this power hungry surveillance shit is really over the top.

And have anyone even been thinking about the poor Vortiguants or people who are BOL? There's literally more surveillance down in sewers than there is on the surface. The camera abuse down in sewers was so bad that it covered the Libirated Vortigaunt spawn and instantly tagged upon spawning. Not only did it block off sections of the sewers but it also resulted in it becoming unaccessible to some Vortiguants or BOL-targets without causing a sweep. Imagien a new player finding himself down in sewers... Isn't the Xen creatures dangerous enough? Spores? Constant Sweeping and cameras covering every blind spot and entrenceinto sewers? Like....Seriously? People are IC breaking cameras in sewers and on the surface because we want them gone, and acutally IC remove them. Yet they get re-booted during a restart or 'OOC' spawned in by admins flying around once again. The thing is that, cameras are placed in such a way aswell that they're covering a large area of space which itself just 'doodoo' at this point.

There's literally 1 camera in each room in the CWU. Covering pretty much every single thing in there. Adding up to probably 6-8 cams alone in there, which is already too much...

It's understandable to have cams in the plaza, but even here there's an unecessary amount of them. Cams at the CWU entrence, cams in the middle of the plaza, cams in the elevator at plaza leading to sewers, cams pretty much all across the streets. There's literally 5 cams alone in the public part of the ration complex. Probably more that've missed. I'm not suprised if they put cams inside the Biotic housing.

D4 was a relatively cam free spot to actually do some skeetchy shit, but today i noticed more cams being set up around D4 by an admin flying around. Quite literally ruining the whole skeetchy vibe possibility. Might aswell turn D4 into main plaza aswell as checkpoints are being set up inside the small tunnel area leading to d4 which i also want to mention being guarded by a camera.

It has gone so far, that cameras are being placed inside the slums, covering vast spaces...Wasn't dispatch enough surveillance to begin with? For a brief time, there was literally forcefields placed infront of elevators. And combine Bio-locks placed ontop of the ladder doors leading to sewers. There was literally no way to get into sewers until people started to complain about it.

And the worst part ain't even done yet, as there's literally more surveillance and cameras covering the sewers. Espeically the entrences. To be honest... There has to be around 40 cameras placed all around the map if callculations are correct. Anyone at this point can see that the surveillance system is abused and simply ain't fun. "Hah! I saw you on cams trading a knife, time to pk."
 
Can't wait to watch cop mains scream "keep it ic! ic problem!" while they strangle the server of fun.
 
Not only should Cameras be scaled back some, but I'd say they should be RP'd being placed by units before placing anything rather than just being lolspawned
 
Not only should Cameras be scaled back some, but I'd say they should be RP'd being placed by units before placing anything rather than just being lolspawned
I didn't realize they were lolspawned I thought people actually set them up, yikes if true
 
Not only should Cameras be scaled back some, but I'd say they should be RP'd being placed by units before placing anything rather than just being lolspawned
I've lead like 3 or 4 camera repair shifts so far, so I'm all-for having these things RP'd out. If a camera is destroyed, it should be destroyed. Staff shouldn't be placing cameras at all. That should be left to people IC.
 
Like... How hard is it to not place cams everywhere? Cp's yell about wanting to get their gun skills up and resulting in OOC rebel simulations. Yet they can't see that they're quite literally strangling themselves by doing this and breaking down the little RebelRP that exist.
 
yes, yes they are. and when server restarts, they appear again.
Not 100% sure about this. I've been on after restarts and seen cameras broken. Although, if this is true, it should be fixed or, even better, cameras should just be deleted when they're destroyed through /me's.
 
Remove 40-50% of the cams, make slums a more of a defenable and unknown area for CP's to enter, generally speaking.
Not 100% sure about this. I've been on after restarts and seen cameras broken. Although, if this is true, it should be fixed or, even better, cameras should just be deleted when they're destroyed through /me's.
I wander sewers 24/7 and cams re-appear during restarts. If they get IC destroyed then they should be actually removed as a whole. Making CP's actually having to sacrifice pk's and resources to uphold survilance in the sewers. Creating RP possibilites from both sides.
 
God it’s that bad? I’m not in the sewers that much recently so I didn’t know it was quite that extensive. I see why that wouldn’t be fun
 
Let's be real here, not even in HL2's Sewer chapters do you see one combine camera, sewers imo should serve as a safe haven for BOLs and when CPs actually know of a threat they should be dispatched to it
 
Not 100% sure about this. I've been on after restarts and seen cameras broken. Although, if this is true, it should be fixed or, even better, cameras should just be deleted when they're destroyed through /me's.
i destroyed some cameras on my vort yesterday, but today they are back again.
 
CWU usually go put them up, CP's can't put them up themselves for some reason, it gives us something to do, but I admit it's getting overzealous. I mentioned a while ago that going into sewers to repair cameras as CWU with a CP escort was interesting because it was dangerous and was a legitimate question on if CP's wanted to risk workers and units for it. But I definitely agree there are probably too many of them....

And yes I have to mention that camera people keep putting on the tiny pole that obviously can't support it.



AND THE BEEPING
 
Its kinda weird since people like to spawn NPCs in the slums sometimes, but they can't use any weapons they have because they'd be PKed, so everyone just has to wait for CPs to come in and deal with it or risk getting found out.
 
Because the point of slums is to be an area where illegal activities can take place without cops on you immediately.
It's easy to avoid the camera in the slums. There's others ways in/out and it's sat in a far corner by a single door.
 
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