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Implemented More ways to obtain syringes

Bounter

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So, as you know, syringes are one of the more important items, for any player who wants to partake in medical work, wether as a CMU, unaligned doctor, or a Rebel medic, it doesn't matter. They're used for crafting things like pain stabilizers, blood bags, FAK-s, which are some of the more important medical items on the server, being nice utilities that aren't just your basic bandages.

However, issue with them is, they're VERY, VERY hard to get! Seriously, currently, the only REAL ways to get them are:
- Join the Medical union and steal the syringes, which, you may not get away with for long
AND
- Buy them from stores or DOB, even though they don't sell those to normal people (at least from my experience)

This means that, if you are a Medical character, that does NOT want to be in CMU just to get syringes, you're either shit out of luck, or need to be in touch with a CMU worker who just so happens to be a Rebel. Which, is not always possible.


It's one of the reasons, that I believe that Syringes should have MORE ways to be obtained. I already have a few ideas in my head, of variable possibility.


Idea 1 - Allow syringes to be craftable
Simple as. Considering you can make knives, and other tools without toolkits, and with basic materials, I do believe that syringes should be craftable as well (Makeshift or DIY syringes exist irl).

Now, as for the recipe, my idea for it would be like this:
x4 Plastic Garbage (Or x1 Sheet)
x3 Scrap Metal
+ Optionally x1 Alcohol (as a way to "clean" the metal, in the syringe)

Not too expensive, which is because of similar items with other costs (like Kitchen Knife, Spoon etc.). Wether this would be too good or not, I cannot fully tell.


Idea 2 - Let smuggler NPCs sell them

Another one I kind of don't get, is why Smugglers do not sell them at all. Now, they sell MANY MANY things, some that are way more important or necessary, BUT apparently, Syringes are too far.

Just make them affordable at a Smuggler, maybe give them a 30-40 Chips cost for a singular Syringe. Maybe 50, if those 2 other options would be too low.


Idea 2.5 - Let loot crates drop them

An offshoot of the Idea 2, but, basically, Lootcrates can drop MANY things of very high importance to anyone, so, I do believe syringes could be a rare, and very restricting (as in they rarely drop with anything else) drop, if RNG chooses you, or if you get a Crowbar.

Hell, if you wanted to, you could have them be a SUPER RARE trash drop, akin to a Car Battery.



Idea 3 - Have a "CMU" vending machine, only for higher tier loyalists.

This idea's bit iffy, but, bare with me. Considering how loyalists get better treatment than most folks as is, this would be yet another way of doing it, while also providing infiltration players, to get use out of it.

A vending machine outside of CMU offices, that would sell things like syringes, painkillers, face-masks (Only these 3 make the most sense, but even then), for Orange/Yellow bands and above. And, for not a very cheap price either, let's say Syringes themselves would be around x2 the stocks / market cost (so 24 credits or more).



Anyway, that's all I have to say. Do you agree or not? Let me know.
 
You used to be able to craft syringes. Like I think that was still around even during terminal 7 so I don't know what happened to it.
 
You used to be able to craft syringes. Like I think that was still around even during terminal 7 so I don't know what happened to it.
It wasn't around T7, I remember. I don't think it was, anyway.
 
You used to be able to craft syringes. Like I think that was still around even during terminal 7 so I don't know what happened to it.
Believe it was City Eight. I remember because my alternative to crafting them was just outright paying CWU to make them for me, ended up being cheaper the second way, weird it vanished though how else are we meant to open crack dens?
 
As a med char, make a way to make those plz
 
Believe it was City Eight. I remember because my alternative to crafting them was just outright paying CWU to make them for me, ended up being cheaper the second way, weird it vanished though how else are we meant to open crack dens?
Hell, buying toolkits for normal civvies (which I think is legal) is x100 more sus, than buying syringes, ngl.

Syringes could be used for food and stuff, or medicine or legal drugs, toolkits are more SOOS
 
I think it disappeared from crafting because glass shivs were removed
 
I think it disappeared from crafting because glass shivs were removed
Just, replace glass with plastic then (how Adhesive in medical has a new recipe), and make it craftable maybe in medical crafting section.
 
Only current ways to get syringes (as far as I know) are


Buying them from the CWU (Either as singular items or buying a CMU material crate)

Paying the smuggler (In chips mind)

Currently there is a bottle neck for those who ain't either wanting to go to the CWU for a single syringe at a time, if you're not in the CMU or are willing to go and explore the labyrinth that is the City-24 underground

Syringes were removed from crafting due to glass shards being removed from the server.

If this was to come back, I'd propose a crafting ratio of

2 plastic to one metal scrap, requiring a toolkit like back before the craft was removed.
 
Only current ways to get syringes (as far as I know) are


Buying them from the CWU (Either as singular items or buying a CMU material crate)

Paying the smuggler (In chips mind)

Currently there is a bottle neck for those who ain't either wanting to go to the CWU for a single syringe at a time, if you're not in the CMU or are willing to go and explore the labyrinth that is the City-24 underground

Syringes were removed from crafting due to glass shards being removed from the server.

If this was to come back, I'd propose a crafting ratio of

2 plastic to one metal scrap, requiring a toolkit like back before the craft was removed.
CWU will not sell you unless you're CMU (I tried to buy from DOB, didn't work, but could try at a normal store, eitherway, doubt CWU would sell / make for you)

Also smugglers DO NOT SELL THEM, neither do BMDs. I tried both, neither one sells. Smugglers do not have it, and BMDs do not either (@Cengiz can vouch).

Also for crafting, 3 plastic garbage (or 1 sheet), with 2 scrap metal, but no toolkit, maybe scissors, would work better.

Since, normal folks will have more use for things like kitchen knives or such.
 
Gameplay team will look into this and see what can be done.

We'll 100% try to make syringes more accessible, but will discuss how exactly we decide to go about that. Ty for the suggestion.
 
They were craftable, but they aren't anymore.
 
CWU sells syringes nobody has asked to buy said item. We can fabricate it...
 
CWU sells syringes nobody has asked to buy said item. We can fabricate it...
Very dangerous for slumrats to ask the CWU or CMU directly for things- it leaves a paper trail, and even one Worker sending off a message to CPs can get you a beating.
 
Idea 2 - Let smuggler NPCs sell them
Another one I kind of don't get, is why Smugglers do not sell them at all. Now, they sell MANY MANY things, some that are way more important or necessary, BUT apparently, Syringes are too far.

Just make them affordable at a Smuggler, maybe give them a 30-40 Chips cost for a singular Syringe. Maybe 50, if those 2 other options would be too low.
Implemented this one and BMDs will now sell it too.

May do the loot one another time.
 
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