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Pandora Game Ban Appeal

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Pandora

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Steam Name:
Pandora
SteamID:

STEAM_0:1:214217171

Name of the Admin you were banned by:
@Goose

How long is the ban for?:
2 Months

The reason you were banned?:
FailRP, refusal to adhere to admins, repeating actions from prior ban.

Why do you wish to be unbanned?:

First off, I do not know why I was banned. I never did any FailRP, and I was not warned by admins or messaged by admins today, so what the heck does "Failure to adhere" to admins even mean?
The only prior ban I have is from a few weeks ago, I made a failrp character name and was banned for a few days. I have not done anything like that. I made a charatcer named Alice Coke today, but that is not a bad name in the slightest. So I am wondering what they mean by repeating bad actions, fail RP, failure to adhere to admins, and repeating past actions. I am in total loss, as I was banned just as an event was about to kick off and I am removed from the community in all forms for 2 months for something I do not even know what I did!

Do you have any picture or video evidence to support your reason?:

No, as I do not know what I did


Were there any witnesses who can help in this appeal?: (List the steam and/or character names of them or tag them)

None
 
First off, apologies on my end. There was a mixup and somehow I switched your name around for another person. Please ignore the "adhere" and FAILRP part. Your ban was corrected a few minutes later.

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So, going off of the image above. This was the main reason for your ban. This sort of behavior is absolutely unacceptable, even if claimed to be an in-character problem. This comes off as stalker-ish behavior.

Furthermore, the character you mentioned, Alice Coke. She's a prostitute. I wouldn't really call that a serious character, when you are offering blowjobs for five tokens. Checking logs, it seems you made this character entirely for the purpose of ERP.
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And then proceeded to kill her because you didn't get ERP.
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As far as I am concerned, you do not have my support. I'll be tagging @RedHotGinger due to involvement. As well as having dealt with previous behaviour.
 
First off, apologies on my end. There was a mixup and somehow I switched your name around for another person. Please ignore the "adhere" and FAILRP part. Your ban was corrected a few minutes later.

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So, going off of the image above. This was the main reason for your ban. This sort of behavior is absolutely unacceptable, even if claimed to be an in-character problem. This comes off as stalker-ish behavior.

Furthermore, the character you mentioned, Alice Coke. She's a prostitute. I wouldn't really call that a serious character, when you are offering blowjobs for five tokens. Checking logs, it seems you made this character entirely for the purpose of ERP.
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And then proceeded to kill her because you didn't get ERP.
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As far as I am concerned, you do not have my support. I'll be tagging @RedHotGinger due to involvement. As well as having dealt with previous behaviour.
How is what I was doing with Nathaniel bad? Just cause you feel like someone is stalking you, it is meant to be taken IC. Yes, my character is a stalker. He is a loser, but he has a lot of relationships with different characters that people tend to enjoy. I am confused as to why you do not like this behavior. I was never warned by any admins for this type of RP, EVER. If I was, I would have stopped.

As for Alice, what I did is not against the rules. I know ERP is not allowed. I was not going to ERP. According to the rules, I cant ERP and I agree with that, only F2B is allowed. Me trying to have a character that is like that may make you uncomfortable, but it in no way is wrong in any shape or form. Diffrent characters have different lives, and with Alice I just wanted to play that role of a broken down girl on the brink of death trying to make some tokens


I see you just do not like how I roleplay. If I was told not to do this, I would direct my RP to match what any admins want. I am not an unreasonable person. However I was just given a 2 month ban, 2 months, for something that is just being explained to me now, which is that you just do not like my RP.

If I broke rules, sure punish me. But I am not seeing anything.

Look, I want to play and I want to work something out. How about this. You clearly do not like my character Nathaniel, I will stop doing the stalker behavior and void everything I have with Max if you unban me. I want to be communicative with this community, but you have to communicate with me
 
I understand the asking here want role-playing thar matches their wants and needs, but as a player I was never informed on what was not on par with what you are okay with. I understand the rules from head to toe.

I play here exclusively on my down time, I am heavily involved with rp almost 3 to 4 hours a day, I love it here and want to be a part of the community

But I was not told anything, I was just banned for 2 months out of the blue for role-playing something you don't like. I'm willing to adhere to your wants. I'm not unwilling, I'm reasonable. But I have not gone against the rules, I just want to play here. Work with me here guys.
 
The big issue I have with you is that all you seem to do is creepy, bothersome stuff.

Your last character participated in something, that by all accounts, was basically ERP in an even stranger format.

Then you have Alice Coke - a hooker who does nothing but offer sexual favors in exchange for scraps of a reward.

Now we have Nathaniel Brinks. Who draws lewd pictures of characters and sells them like an absolute creep.

Every single one of these characters is a sexual deviant in their own way, which is becoming bothersome to say the least. This is a repeat problem and I feel it should be common sense to not engage in this kind of behavior. Let me make it clear, this is not RP that furthers anything of value in the server. This isn't the kind of RP that develops or even builds on anything. Its mindless, meaningless deviancy. This type of stuff needs to stop.

As for the ban time, its overinflated since we actually confused you with someone else who engaged in similar behavior with a dash of FailRP. So it will be heavily reduced to reflect the actual punishment that should have been bestowed.

Given everything you have done thus far, including your prior bans, I am willing to bring the time down to a week (Time served counted) with a stipulation.
You are being handed your final warning for any ERP. Any further attempts to engage in this kind of creepy behavior will get you a month ban or (likely) worse.
 
Seems like a solid conclusion to me.

Accepted. Ban lowered to One Week.
 
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Five accounts, one targetted person.

First Account, Hams, pervert old man who keeps doing creep RP with resemblance to the above by the works of Alice Coke and Nathaniel Brinks. Claims to be an old friend of yours in VC. Only joined when you got banned.
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Second Account, targetted the same person targetted by Hams, only joined today.
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Third account, targetted the same person targetted by the three, only joined today.
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Fourth account, same person, joined only today.
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Fifth account, thought it was a normal player due to their account being in public and with considerable amount of hours on Gmod, thought wrong. Targetted the same player, joined only today.
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Anyone with proper intuition will recognize that all of these accounts are targetting the same person, and will recognize that it's the same person, with witness detail hearing your voice being the same as that of Hams whomst lied about being an actual friend of yours just to make your statement 'legible'.

I recommend a permanent IP ban from the server.
@RedHotGinger @Goose
 
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Five accounts, one targetted person.

First Account, Hams, pervert old man who keeps doing creep RP with resemblance to the above by the works of Alice Coke and Nathaniel Brinks. Claims to be an old friend of yours in VC. Only joined when you got banned.
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Second Account, targetted the same person targetted by Hams, only joined today.
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Third account, targetted the same person targetted by the three, only joined today.
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Fourth account, same person, joined only today.
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Fifth account, thought it was a normal player due to their account being in public and with considerable amount of hours on Gmod, thought wrong. Targetted the same player, joined only today.
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Anyone with proper intuition will recognize that all of these accounts are targetting the same person, and will recognize that it's the same person, with witness detail hearing your voice being the same as that of Hams whomst lied about being an actual friend of yours just to make your statement 'legible'.

I recommend a permanent IP ban from the server.
@RedHotGinger @Goose
What the fuck am I reading.



I was in the middle of drafting a response to the post RedHot made and I saw this

First off, I've never talked in voice chat before. So you claiming I sound like this guy does not make sense. Other than that, I have no idea what this even is. I have nothing to say about it cause there is nothing to say. Trace their IP or something, you guys know mine. I would not have the same IP as this person

Okay, back to what RedHot said. I have a looot to say about that...Let me finish the draft real quick
 
The big issue I have with you is that all you seem to do is creepy, bothersome stuff.
Creepy, brother some stuff?

Again, none of that is against the rules. If I was doing something over the line, you should *tell me* through PMs in game or warning me. I am a reasonable person who can accommodate changes in RP. Whatever the admins line on what is and is not okay, that is not being told to me. You are just slapping down bans. As someone who plays this server like a drug, 3-4 hours a day, when I am banned for a week, or even a few days that is extremely punishing.

Not only does it punish me by not being able to play here, it punishes my reputation.

Your last character participated in something, that by all accounts, was basically ERP in an even stranger format.
I have never participated in ERP in any shape or form. I know the rules, all of it has to be fade 2 black so people like you dont have to see detailed porn when you open the logs. I totally agree with that, and I fully support that ban on ERP.
My interaction with that old man was not ERP. He paid me to pretend to beat him. That was it, we did nothing close to sexual. While ICly, CPs viewed me pretending to beat someone as "BDSM", in no way did I cross the line of ERP. Erotic roleplay has no place in this community, I have followed that guideline.

Then you have Alice Coke - a hooker who does nothing but offer sexual favors in exchange for scraps of a reward.
When you say that, it sounds like you think I did not put a lot of thought into this character. But what you have not seen is my character development, and her story that I have been writing about her since she has died in the freetime I have had
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Alice Cook was not just some hooker character with no interesting story or development who was just killed herself, she is part of my story I am writing for this server and its players. It is not black and white, how you see a character as "just a boring hooker" is not what I see her as. She is a story that will be flourishing even after her death.

Now we have Nathaniel Brinks. Who draws lewd pictures of characters and sells them like an absolute creep.

Nathaniel Brinks is currently the main character I play at the moment. I have made lots of friends with him here, and some of my best moments have been playing him and being harassed for his artistic talents.

All of his talents, as he sees them, are IC. The *one* drawing he drew that was suggestive was of the character he is stalking. I do not go around selling these pictures, but I have had one man pay to see the pictures. The only selling of drawings I do to people is commissions of themselves in 90's manga style. I do not go around drawing lewd pictures of people, that is simply not true.

Now, the character Nathaniel may be controversial, as he is simply put, a creep. That I would agree on. He does not know how to communicate with females properly, and attaches himself to Maxine Lee with an unhealthy obsession, seeing her as some sort of princess to save him from the harassment he faces from others.

This is roleplay, it is character development and it brings a story to unfold. Nathaniel is part of that overarching story I am building to provide interesting stories to the server. There will be personalities that make you feel shocked, there will be personalities that make you feel uncomfortable. But Nathaniel is just one of those characters who has flaws and may make you feel either one of those emotions. If I cross a line, you have to message me. Dont just throw down bans like hotcakes.

Every single one of these characters is a sexual deviant in their own way, which is becoming bothersome to say the least.

None of these characters are sexual deviants. I could see how from an outside view of just an observer, that you could look at Alice and think she may be, be as mentioned above, she is so much more than just a hooker. She is a flower that I have developed and cherished, who I want to build.
If anything is bothersome, *TELL ME* through in game messaging and I can adjust my rp to fit your needs! Handing out bans is just counter productive, we would not have to waste our time here talking if you just said something in game if you saw a /me you wanted me to change to fit your needs

This is a repeat problem and I feel it should be common sense to not engage in this kind of behavior. Let me make it clear, this is not RP that furthers anything of value in the server. This isn't the kind of RP that develops or even builds on anything. Its mindless, meaningless deviancy. This type of stuff needs to stop.

This comment from you really hit me the most man.
I put so much effort into my characters every single day. Even at work, I wonder at my desk how my actions will create interesting character development.
You saying my characters, my story, my hours and hours of effort add nothing of value to the server and needs to stop really is like a punch to the gut.
All of my characters develop stories, develop relationships, and build a a story for dozens, if not hundreds to enjoy.

What exactly needs to stop? You paint me as some person who has hostile intent, that is not the case. All I want to do is help this server. Please, just drop this mindset about my roleplay. If not, just tell me what I can do to change, do not say "This type of stuff needs to stop." What stuff? Its extremely vague.

As for the ban time, its overinflated since we actually confused you with someone else who engaged in similar behavior with a dash of FailRP. So it will be heavily reduced to reflect the actual punishment that should have been bestowed.

Given everything you have done thus far, including your prior bans, I am willing to bring the time down to a week (Time served counted) with a stipulation.

I was never once warned in game, I was never once messaged about any of this until you threw the ban out and it was too late to do anything. How is that fair?

If I was going out of my way and breaking rules, sure I would see why you would throw a week ban out. But none of what I was doing was breaking any rules. In this case, I want the ban removed entirely. If you tell me what you want changed, then that would count as a warning and then if I do it again even after the warning, THEN I could see you placing a week ban.

I have put an ass load of effort to try and put my heart and soul into this appeal, explaining the details and intricacies of my situation. I ask you to consider the situation and just remove this ban, and guide me on what I should *NOT* do so I can follow what you want out of me


You as a admin should tell me in game through messages or warnings if I am crossing some line that you do not like. That goes for you @Goose as well. I fully respect that if you do not like how my character is acting, you as the administrator should tell me and I can adjust it. I am playing your story, your city, your server. My roleplay effects the entire servers story, like a butterfly effect.
 
Also, please PLEASE do not lock and move this thread before I can read and respond to it again. Leave it in this forum area for atleast 12 hours before moving/locking it. I, as the defendant should have the right to see and respond to posts in threads I make. Once you move it, I cant even see it
 
I was never once warned in game,
You may be correct in the fact that this account wasn’t warned. However, Plox, your punishments from your main account carry over to your alt account.

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All of your accounts will be permanently banned across the community. I understand you may have wished to avoid the judgement from your infraction history, but this was not the correct way to do this.

With that, I will be locking this thread. However, I will hold off on banning your forums account until you have viewed this thread.

Denied

This is not up for debate, any attempt to remake this post will be automatically denied.
 
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