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Source 2/Sbox HL2 RP

Silta

Silta

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It's probably been stated multiple times before to the point it's a repetitive topic, but I'd like to know your thoughts on Source 2 and the continuation of Half-Life 2 Roleplay as a game mode. I hate to admit it but the genre and communities surrounding HL2RP are slowly dying and fading from existence. However, with Source 2 tools being released and with Sbox early access being given out like candy, I wonder if there will be any communities interested in trying to recreate Half-Life 2 Roleplay as a game mode. The Engine limitations have been increased 10 fold in Source 2 allowing a lot more dev work to be easily done.

Would Willard ever be interested in moving to Source 2 in the future? Or will it be left to others? Most of you have the workflow and assets. However, the coding language is now C# if I'm not mistaken so Lua is no longer used. I was working on an alien infestation game mode for a few months with a small dev team and the easy access Sbox tools offer are nothing like I've seen before. Not to mention the introduction to Hammer 2. Mapmaking would be a lot smoother and easy to master for beginners.

I think what I would most be excited about is the engine limitations of Source 1 being gone to allow even more creativity with this dev team. But I also understand no one may have time for such a task, or prefer to stay in Garry's Mod.
 
it will probably be inevitable if sbox ever takes off, the creative and technical ceiling is going to be higher and with a few years of work there'll probably be something that eclipses roleplay schemas on garrysmod. whether that is a hl2rp gamemode though is something to speculate on

there's still a good chance it will flop though. plenty of occurrences where communities have stayed with older games because they're just better suited for roleplay. in that sense it's a risk to start investing time and effort into it, especially when that detracts from focus otherwise placed on the existing server
 
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I don't want HL2RP to move to S&box because HL2 is a Source game. If anything, I want Gmod servers to revert back to old-school HL2RP and allow S&box to take over HLARP.

HLA provided so many new opportunities to explore and the setting is so much richer and more RP friendly than HL2. You could chalk that up to it being a modern game, but the point still stands.

Gmod should do HL2RP, S&box should do HLARP. I don't want to see HL2 servers in S&box because it won't feel like HL2 anymore.

My ideal HLARP setting would be a massive QZ map with frequent Infestation Control workshifts and OTA patrols. Scavengers, rebels, and refugees have to survive the hostile Xen fauna and flora while also avoiding causing too much of a ruckus. Throw a city in there, too, if you have the playerbase and space. Otherwise, CPs can man checkpoints around the perimeter of the QZ. I'd want to see construction projects on buildings inside and around the QZ. All the while, the Vault looms overhead, and your character is left to wonder what's really inside.
 
Apparently Garry is making sure that S&Box steers away from gmod's legacy of awful roleplay and terrible gamemodes, and instead making it a platform for the fretta-like minigames that you had everywhere during the golden era of garry's mod.
I wouldn't expect HL2RP to be magically revitalized if that's the case.
 
afibon said:
Apparently Garry is making sure that S&Box steers away from gmod's legacy of awful roleplay and terrible gamemodes, and instead making it a platform for the fretta-like minigames that you had everywhere during the golden era of garry's mod.
I wouldn't expect HL2RP to be magically revitalized if that's the case.
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Garry can suck my cock. Base Gmod was shitty and boring as well. The RP community will find a way if they want to, and there’s literally nothing facepunch can do about it.
 
Radical proposal, but time has changed. We can either adapt or die. If we were to transfer to S&Box, a whole lot of custom content and even the typical Gmod controls must be ported over as from what I seen and heard, S&Box is very different in terms of gameplay to Garry's Mod.
 
RedHotGinger said:
Those are both the exact same thing tho.
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Gmod (and Source 1 for that matter) does not have even close to the required in-built technological systems in place to really do HLA justice. All we’ve managed to do is port some stuff like the character models (which look fine) and some props. If you’ve seen the Xen prop pack on Gmod you will know it looks like shit.

Yes, you could theoretically have HLA RP in Gmod, and some servers have attempted it in the past, but no server can surpass the limits of the Source engine, and so HLA RP in Gmod ends up extremely bootleg. Doesn’t even come close to doing the real game justice.

Most importantly, it doesn’t feel like HLA. Just like doing HL2RP in GTA V. It doesn’t capture the setting because it simply is unable to. I suspect that S&box will be unable to capture the feeling of HL2 unless some really dedicated people want to downgrade their assets. Gmod will always be better for HL2RP, complete with its jank.

If you’re trying to say that HL2 and HLA are similar settings, that is flat-out wrong. Again, it could be chalked up to engine limitations.

HL2RP is only bearable because of the years of custom fanon around the setting. If you strip it to its core and maybe also factor in some of Laidlaw’s lore tidbits on Twitter, HL2 is just a terrible setting for RP. In actual HL2, citizens are constantly relocated, starving, and beaten to the point that they want to become Civil Protection, because the alternative (fleeing or becoming a rebel) is effectively impossible and will result in an almost guaranteed useless death. They have no contact with family and can’t talk to each other out on the streets. They have no privacy or houses and will be beaten or killed simply for being in the same apartment building as a random guy with glasses that happens to be running away. Nobody actually wants to live like that, much less spend their free time pretending to live like that.

HLA doesn’t NEED fanon to be a good setting. It has established the CANON existence of workers, freedoms for citizens, pets, etc. Way more friendly of a setting. To do it justice requires the use of modern advancements.
 
Personally, I think that s&box won't live up to the hype. Even if it does, it will be plagued with the same problems that HL2RP had. Drama.
 
CreekMando said:
Personally, I think that s&box won't live up to the hype. Even if it does, it will be plagued with the same problems that HL2RP had. Drama.
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drama pervades the universe. you will find it everywhere. nothing can be done about it. cringe and move on.
 
I don’t see HL2RP doing that Great on source 2 but I like the looks of s&box so even if rp doesn’t carry over it still seems like a good game, if the community provides good addons like they did with Gmod
 
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MAKE IT STOP
 
I really do not want to see Source 2 Vorticocks in my face with raytracing and balls physics when SandBox is open for everyone.
 
Gary has openly stated for years that he hates roleplay servers (unironically, not as a meme) and won't be including things like ported assets, like Gmod had with HL2 stuff which is why the gamemode took off.

You're not going to see many (if any) RP communities on S&Box.
 
Rabid said:
Gary has openly stated for years that he hates roleplay servers (unironically, not as a meme) and won't be including things like ported assets, like Gmod had with HL2 stuff which is why the gamemode took off.

You're not going to see many (if any) RP communities on S&Box.
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yet he hires the creator of one of the biggest hl2rp gamemodes?
 
AdamCF said:
yet he hires the creator of one of the biggest hl2rp gamemodes?
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Who has also said he's not making CW 2.0 or roleplay schema for it, yeah. He's literally just there to do coding because its a massive boon for his work experience and had the qualifications and experience to get the job.

Kuroazel is a dickhead with a mile-long list of complaints against him, but he's talented. There's no other reason.
 
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