Implemented The suggestion all rebels want and the entire CT team and overwatch hate.

[Headcrab]

I agree with this mostly, I think the weapon should be dropped in a biolocked state (probably enforced with the scripts so people just don't lol around it) so it'll take some work and effort to get it to work, with the larger more prevalent problem being the pulse rounds which are hella expensive and harder to get than any normal round.

But could you please stop spreading such a fucking hard Us vs Them mentality all the time man, we get it, you dislike OTA players.

 

[Neonity]

to be fair we're at the point in the timeline where the AR2 hasn't been produced yet.

this is blatantly false. the AR-2 exists and so do specialized versions of it.

 

[The Milkman]

Make cracked ar2 fully automatic. Then rebels will use it instead of sell it

 

[Pasta]

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Facts. All rebel mains voted yes and all ota voted no

While I am fine with Rebels getting the weaponry that they require, (as long as there are some drawbacks as well. They are not as strong as OTA. Perhaps some strength requirements(?) Depend really on how hard it is to crack a biolock for a weapon).

I find it quite annoying that your current mentality seemingly boils down to "US vs THEM". Last time I checked this was a community roleplay server in which both sides must work together to build a story. I have gone up to bat for the rebels quite often, even if I do not play as one their enjoyment matters.

By all means good luck to finding ammo for an AR, I think that'd be a fun encouragement for them to do more off-server events to try and attack OTA strongholds or hell even an armory. Who cares as long as it drives the story with a balance that is controlled?

I implore you to do a little self-reflection on how your posting/attitude comes across when making such posts. Without conflict, this server would remain boring, without drama, the server would have no story. Please get out of this mentality that it's "US vs THEM" from an OOC standpoint.

 

[Marfarious]

If OTA should drop their weapons now, I think that rebels should drop their souls and if an OTA collects them they can't pk appeal. If this is accepted I'm down.

 

[Belgg]

While I am fine with Rebels getting the weaponry that they require, (as long as there are some drawbacks as well. They are not as strong as OTA. Perhaps some strength requirements(?) Depend really on how hard it is to crack a biolock for a weapon).

I find it quite annoying that your current mentality seemingly boils down to "US vs THEM". Last time I checked this was a community roleplay server in which both sides must work together to build a story. I have gone up to bat for the rebels quite often, even if I do not play as one their enjoyment matters.

By all means good luck to finding ammo for an AR, I think that'd be a fun encouragement for them to do more off-server events to try and attack OTA strongholds or hell even an armory. Who cares as long as it drives the story with a balance that is controlled?

I implore you to do a little self-reflection on how your posting/attitude comes across when making such posts. Without conflict, this server would remain boring, without drama, the server would have no story. Please get out of this mentality that it's "US vs THEM" from an OOC standpoint.

I said what I said (That they'd not like this suggestion) because I had reasons to think that way. I never said I disliked them. I said they weren't going to like this specific suggestion, as they've proven to dislike similar ideas in the past, and it has been proven in their votes that most of them did in fact dislike the idea.

 

[Astro]

I said what I said (That they'd not like this suggestion) because I had reasons to think that way. I never said I disliked them. I said they weren't going to like this specific suggestion, as they've proven to dislike similar ideas in the past, and it has been proven in their votes that most of them did in fact dislike the idea.

Like, 2 out of those 7 reactions came from OTA WL holders.

 

[Marfarious]

No, SCRIPTWHORES. All rebels will do is start some shit that warrants OTA, have a VORTIGAUNT kill them, minge their gear, then run away. If they die during this process they'll appeal, be accepted, and try again.

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[Marfarious]

Also, I feel like if this is implemented, developers would have tested it and got a good system right where it isn't super easy to crack, but then rebels will complain and they'll nerf it to the point where every rebel has an AR2

 

[Belgg]

No, SCRIPTWHORES. All rebels will do is start some shit that warrants OTA, have a VORTIGAUNT kill them, minge their gear, then run away. If they die during this process they'll appeal, be accepted, and try again.

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If you say this then you're assuming that OTA will break the rules, which is pretty disrespectful, and even more considering you're an OTA yourself.
Appeals only get accepted if that is the case, or if there were bugs involved.

Also, I feel like if this is implemented, developers would have tested it and got a good system right where it isn't super easy to crack, but then rebels will complain and they'll nerf it to the point where every rebel has an AR2

Re-implemented*, as it was implemented before and it didn't get abused.

 

[Marfarious]

If you say this then you're assuming that OTA will break the rules, which is pretty disrespectful, and even more considering you're an OTA yourself.
Appeals only get accepted if that is the case, or if there were bugs involved.

Re-implemented*, as it was implemented before and it didn't get abused.

Rebels before were actually smart and rped, but were dumb when it came to being secretive. Rebel "RP" has come full circle.
Also, did you even read the post, I said "rebels will have OTA come to slums for doing something, rebels will have vorts kill OTA, and then the rebels will minge grab this shit. Don't try to turn around what I said, Belgg.

 

[TheGoodHunter]

this is blatantly false. the AR-2 exists and so do specialized versions of it.

i hate willard networks

 

[Dej]

The rebels of the V1 era were much smarter, they played it smart as an organized resistance, developing strategies that actually worked against OTA several times, causing several failures. They did metagame a lot though. The rebels of the current era are basically ISIS that crumble 75% of the time when OTA holds W and left mouse and more often than not requires Event Rebel intervention to kick things off.

Rebel RP is unfortunately centered around being scriptwhores, its the reality of things when Combine get handed their equipment for free or for low cost when rebels have to grind everything. This is why it paved the way to organized groups that were able to operate efficiently, and most of these groups back then either avoided OTA as much as possible either by not provoking them or developing good plans, or developed a plan good enough that they beat out an entire OTA wave. Only the smartest players play by the more subtle rebellion, like how Luthen Rael does from Star Wars: ANDOR.

Any weapon that uses Pulse Energy in any shape or form is biolocked. AR2's being prevented from being dropped initially was because rebels were getting REALLY successful and we had to prevent the over-saturation of OTA gear into the rebel economy.

Additionally, any OTA killed by event rebels will have their gear invalidated. If someone gives a rebel OTA loot based off an event rebel kill, I will literally deploy Wallhammers like no tomorrow.

I got a OTISR from killing OTA, so I have no idea why this isn't a thing.

This is because the OSITR is not biolocked and uses Assault Rifle ammo and not Pulse. In addition to this, its only used by Grunts and the OSF/OAA.

 

[Marfarious]

Also yeah, if we drop AR2's we should be able to have wall hammers in combat.

 

[The_Grass_Man]

The real rebels were the ones who had bandanas and that shitty level 20 armour and the fallout 4 pipe guns..............................

 

[Username]

No, SCRIPTWHORES. All rebels will do is start some shit that warrants OTA, have a VORTIGAUNT kill them, minge their gear, then run away. If they die during this process they'll appeal, be accepted, and try again.

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this is true but also just good tactics. Except the resurrection bit I guess

 

[Belgg]

Also yeah, if we drop AR2's we should be able to have wall hammers in combat.

Last time I saw a wallhamer he alone killed the entire rebel group (Including Jun)

 

[Astro]

Last time I saw a wallhamer he alone killed the entire rebel group (Including Jun)

The shotgun that was used is currently banned.