Minge behavior from OTA leads and members

[Badger]

Today a shadow sweep was initiated by OTA, and as I was told by @Eviction Notice , it's 'none of my beezwhacks' why they did so. The squad consisted of two OWS units, one APEX unit, and two EOWs. This was done in response to nothing as far as I know. No attack from the rebel side, no recent losses, it is day two of a new, destroyed city and OTA deployed a shadow sweep in the sewers and beach featuring two of their most elite units.

As they ran the supposed most restrictred type of sweep according to their own guidelines, they eventually came across a group of underequipped rebels on the beach, who were doing passive RP. The resulting conflict was utter S2K nonsense, ending with a major victory against mid-tier rebels, and with the OTA units spamming ''Haha'' and ''Trash'' voicelines at the end while rebels laid in bleedout.



Is this what we expect nowadays from a faction of alien supersoldiers? Have we stopped caring entirely?
This is a sad display by the Combine side, one which constantly complains about the resistance lacking roleplay standards. Are these your standards, @Eviction Notice , and the ones you enforce on your team, since you were a part of this squad and dismissed all my questions during and after the engagement?

In a period where the Combine factions are under heavy scrutiny because of their behavior, is this how you choose to mend relations? By running nonsensical shadow sweeps and dismissing questions from the ET leads? Do better and stop harming your own player base and acting like minges. Even if there was a reason for this sweep, the IC behavior shown by these units is appalling and reads as OOC-fueled anger. It's gone on long enough and no action has been taken against these power trips besides minor rule changes.

 

[nath1234567]

I think this is something that both sides are capable of recognizing as a bad outcome.

Unfortunately this seems to be the desired outcome.

 

[dubik15]

I'm not done.

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Shadow sweeps *are* supposed to be reactionary to the location, in the effect of trying to suppress that areas incoming danger. So for what purpose was it directed to the beach? Was it a full sweep? If it was, then why?

This is a roleplay server, where people are actively to roleplay. What EN did was S2K slop, the kind of S2K slop where not even Impulse players would welcome it.

Hello just adding on to that because I know someone will try to claim “Collective punishment”. The combine is making a huge risk by even leaving the city. Outlands is an unknown. To me this seems as an attempt for “trophy rebels” after a failed sweep. There is no valid reason to have a responsivr (cause yes a shadow sweep is a responsive) sweep leave the area it’s in to go chase done “trophy rebels” in the outlands. Its an abuse of shadow sweep if intended to as such.

 

[dubik15]

Final note on my end for today. How do you even manage to pull an elite and high tier OTA while half the city is destroyed. The shadow sweep is logistically impossible. Day 2 and we get a shadow sweep after a few rebels in slums. Ends up in for some fucking reason in outlands chasing after “trophy rebels”.

 

[FieldersNL]

As a very tiny point here, I think it is obvious that the major rebel presence today did logically demand a response... but shadow sweeping hours later to kill uninvolved, undergeared (compared to the people earlier) people solves nothing with the Liberators and is not good for server health. I think this is something that both sides are capable of recognizing as a bad outcome.

Sweeps to kill off the wrong folks. Folks who had 0 involvement and were RPimg like true roleplayers, but punished for the wrong reasons.

This sort of stuff needs to stop. It kills server health. I've lost my well developed over this shit, lost my taste in RP.

Instead of initiating a sweep hours later, to pick off easy targets. Why not sweep a day later, at PEAK, busy times where you'd assume the stronger forces are logged on and punish those who committed crimes? Seems way more sensible to me.

 

[Acheif]

Sweeps to kill off the wrong folks. Folks who had 0 involvement and were RPimg like true roleplayers, but punished for the wrong reasons.

This sort of stuff needs to stop. It kills server health. I've lost my well developed over this shit, lost my taste in RP.

Instead of initiating a sweep hours later, to pick off easy targets. Why not sweep a day later, at PEAK, busy times where you'd assume the stronger forces are logged on and punish those who committed crimes? Seems way more sensible to me.

This, THIS! "But Muh OTA SWEEP!" your OTA SWEEP killed basic roleplay, CONGRATULATIONS!!! ALL YOU DID WAS STOP PEOPLE FROM ROLEPLAYING; you did not strike a blow too the resistance, you didn't hit a target of priority; they attacked a Diner.

Which as far as I know-- Wasn't even involved

 

[Dr. Ternith Plague]

I'm not involved in this situation in any way, shape, or form. But if this is what OTA has resolved to, it's really sad. I won't tell you how to run the faction because I have 0 experience on the OTA side of things.

But if following your own regulations is not in the book for you, then why create the regulations in the first place? Identify your targets before you go for a PK, and don't insta-PK, that's how this server gets stagnant.

 

[Lord Beckett]

so... two OTA deploy to the slums on their own. a child could have predicted they would be wiped. then a sweep with two EOW is sent on code orange...

wtf are sweep guidelines even for anymore? just delete the forum post if we're not even gonna follow our own rules. like why the hell are two (2) OTA deploying by themselves? there's a goddamn reason the rebels have a stockpile of over twenty (20) pulse weapons. OTA is just in feeding mode for 99% of deployments, and then they overdeploy to screw over some randos.

we need to start dewhitelisting people

 

[Ricsow]

Forgive me if I‘m talking nonsense cause I'm not too familiar with response rules, checkcrime stuff and all that jazz

But to my knowledge crimetimer wasn’t even active when the Liberators attacked/were attacked in the slums?
I ASSUME the reason why GM scanners were sent into the slums and two OTA attacked is this right here:



Tuki essentially begging for a response in /help - now of course I don’t know if the scanners and OTA were actually sent in cause of this request but it seems likely
So really if /crimetimer wasn’t even active then shouldn’t this whole ordeal plus the sweep after be voided?

 

[Janek]

frankly when the ET lead says I'm 'off the rails' and 'hopes my lead role gets taken away' and then immediately begins refunding people, bypassing our refund request system and defacto abusing their roles, I don't particularly wish to explain my IC actions. I think you need to fix your ability to be professional.

That's pretty ironic, seeing how your actions and response to this thread is equally as 'off the rails', by your standards mind you, if not more than that. At this point, you're abusing your position, in order to cater your own interests, and without much if any regard for the playerbase, in which you have taken the position as staff. Here's hoping a vote gets taken up sooner rather than later.

 

[Asimo1234]

But to my knowledge crimetimer wasn’t even active when the Liberators attacked/were attacked in the slums?

This isn't to you specifically but to everyone who seems to have a misconception around the crimecheck when it comes to slums action;



It is pretty clear that the Slums are a lawless area, and any crime can be comitted within barring the destruction of Combine fortifications without Crimecheck.


When the scanners flew into the slums, or when the OTA wanted to play Sniper Elite, that just made them lone wolves in hostile territory, and so shooting them up is completely valid.
Now if Combine want to use suicide missions into slums/sewers as a way to justify sending out the EOWs in shadow sweeps then I think that's a moment.

 

[MrTuki]

Tuki essentially begging for a response in /help - now of course I don’t know if the scanners and OTA were actually sent in cause of this request but it seems likely

Dont speak without actually having context on the situation, the ticket was done after we got canisters spammed on our heads, cremators thrown at us and two random OTA accompanied by a shit ton of event scanners.

It was not fun and the fact that a lot of cops had DCed the MOMENT we all got on to do our bombing operation wasnt helping, yes, I was mad and maybe I lashed out over /help. But after being bombarded by canisters like I was in a bosnian warzone and still be stuck in slums isn't precisely fun for anybody. The situation was bad all around.

 

[Eviction Notice]

This, THIS! "But Muh OTA SWEEP!" your OTA SWEEP killed basic roleplay, CONGRATULATIONS!!! ALL YOU DID WAS STOP PEOPLE FROM ROLEPLAYING; you did not strike a blow too the resistance, you didn't hit a target of priority; they attacked a Diner.

Which as far as I know-- Wasn't even involved

You can't claim we 'didn't strike a blow to the resistance' when said individuals on the boat were armed to the teeth. You can't plead safety and room to passive roleplay outside of the Combine's grip while sitting on a boat with M16s and full-armor.

 

[Janek]

You can't claim we 'didn't strike a blow to the resistance' when said individuals on the boat were armed to the teeth. You can't plead safety and room to passive roleplay outside of the Combine's grip while sitting on a boat with M16s and full-armor.

Armed to the teeth? You sure about that?

Better yet, armed to the teeth, relative to what? *Two* elites?

 

[dubik15]

You can't claim we 'didn't strike a blow to the resistance' when said individuals on the boat were armed to the teeth. You can't plead safety and room to passive roleplay outside of the Combine's grip while sitting on a boat with M16s and full-armor.

I am the only one armed. The rest of the victims had low tier rebel gear. Some a pistol at most without armor.

 

[Acheif]

You can't claim we 'didn't strike a blow to the resistance' when said individuals on the boat were armed to the teeth. You can't plead safety and room to passive roleplay outside of the Combine's grip while sitting on a boat with M16s and full-armor.

I think you'll find the real gear vs what you expect to be quite disassitisfying

 

[melodicwaste]

50000th time OTA has overdeployed and killed some mid tier rebels trying to roleplay

 

[pite]

I was among the two OTAs that deployed in the initial wave that had Liberators present in the Slums.

The whole idea was mine in order to give some engagement to Rebels. We snuck inside the Slums, took one Rebel out and started to fall back, but @atlassu lagged out and got himself killed due to it which is fine. I fell back and camped the catwalk until a Rebel popped out and I shot him as well only for him to fall back into Slums.

I've camped the catwalk again, communicating with local Civil Protection until I decided to take a peek from the same spot we shot the rebel down only to find 4 rebels camping that door which ultimately led to my demise and this picture.

 

[Ket]

I sleep.

CvR commences day 2 of event.

Everyone hates eachother.

Faction management across the server publicly arguing with eachother.

Rad-X going bald with stress.

I'm sacking each fac lead and taking over, you're all silly babies. Play civi rebuild industrial and lets all take some RAVE and have fun! Stop ruining the event!!!!

 

[vilhjalmrf]

Dear God it keeps going! When will it end?!

 

[Garratz]

Dear God it keeps going! When will it end?!

When the server shuts down from all the toxicity.

That's when.