Minge behavior from OTA leads and members

[Badger]

Today a shadow sweep was initiated by OTA, and as I was told by @Eviction Notice , it's 'none of my beezwhacks' why they did so. The squad consisted of two OWS units, one APEX unit, and two EOWs. This was done in response to nothing as far as I know. No attack from the rebel side, no recent losses, it is day two of a new, destroyed city and OTA deployed a shadow sweep in the sewers and beach featuring two of their most elite units.

As they ran the supposed most restrictred type of sweep according to their own guidelines, they eventually came across a group of underequipped rebels on the beach, who were doing passive RP. The resulting conflict was utter S2K nonsense, ending with a major victory against mid-tier rebels, and with the OTA units spamming ''Haha'' and ''Trash'' voicelines at the end while rebels laid in bleedout.



Is this what we expect nowadays from a faction of alien supersoldiers? Have we stopped caring entirely?
This is a sad display by the Combine side, one which constantly complains about the resistance lacking roleplay standards. Are these your standards, @Eviction Notice , and the ones you enforce on your team, since you were a part of this squad and dismissed all my questions during and after the engagement?

In a period where the Combine factions are under heavy scrutiny because of their behavior, is this how you choose to mend relations? By running nonsensical shadow sweeps and dismissing questions from the ET leads? Do better and stop harming your own player base and acting like minges. Even if there was a reason for this sweep, the IC behavior shown by these units is appalling and reads as OOC-fueled anger. It's gone on long enough and no action has been taken against these power trips besides minor rule changes.

 

[NanCi_]

Are we forgetting the part where Tuki killed a CP, OTA and jumped a cremator when it wasn't check crime with atleast 2-3 vortigaunts, 1-2 AR2s and several people with assault rifles. This is simply a "give and return" situation.
The combine faction shouldn't be punished for what was essentially the rebellions fault for not putting a leash on a specific group. Anyways thats not the point. This is very small and minor problem with them saying "haha" and "trash" its a bit much to say they spammed it

 

[RedHotGinger]

This was done in response to nothing as far as I know.

When I was online, there was a rebel attack that killed at least one OTA as far as I know.

That being said, there is definitely a case for OTA acting a bit off at times. I don't think there should be any case where an EOW, of all things, is engaging in that kind of stuff. Even in general, if def comes off as kinda 'bitey' to call people trash after calling them. Even if it ISN'T intended like that, its a pretty rough 'salt in the wound' kinda situation.

I cannot be sure if such is the case, but It would also appear there's also an intense irony to the mid-gear rebels once again catching the full retaliation of the S2K crowds actions, while they themselves get away scot-free.

 

[Badger]

Are we forgetting the part where Tuki killed a CP, OTA and jumped a cremator when it wasn't check crime with atleast 2-3 vortigaunts, 1-2 AR2s and several people with assault rifles. This is simply a "give and return" situation.
The combine faction shouldn't be punished for what was essentially the rebellions fault for not putting a leash on a specific group

Even if this sweep was in response to something the fact that I have to make a complaint thread for the OTA faction lead to tell me the reason for the sweep means something isn't working right in the faction. The FL shouldn't tell me it's "none of my business" why they're running a 2 EOW sweep on my event. It also does not excuse the horrible IC voice line spam that I saw happen.

 

[MrTuki]

Are we forgetting the part where Tuki killed a CP, OTA and jumped a cremator when it wasn't check crime with atleast 2-3 vortigaunts, 1-2 AR2s and several people with assault rifles. This is simply a "give and return" situation.
The combine faction shouldn't be punished for what was essentially the rebellions fault for not putting a leash on a specific group. Anyways thats not the point. This is very small and minor problem with them saying "haha" and "trash" its a bit much to say they spammed it

Never jumped a CP. OTA and the cremator came to us on the slums

 

[Acheif]

Are we forgetting the part where Tuki killed a CP, OTA and jumped a cremator when it wasn't check crime with atleast 2-3 vortigaunts, 1-2 AR2s and several people with assault rifles. This is simply a "give and return" situation.
The combine faction shouldn't be punished for what was essentially the rebellions fault for not putting a leash on a specific group. Anyways thats not the point. This is very small and minor problem with them saying "haha" and "trash" its a bit much to say they spammed i

The time between these situations are hours apart too I’m unsure though but feel pretty sure..

 

[MrTuki]

The time between these situations are hours apart too I’m unsure though but feel pretty sure..

Yeah, they are very far apart and it only began because GMs started spamming Event scanner pills on us, I believe it was Brickwall, unsure. I know RAD and Brickwall were there, maybe some others too?

 

[Acheif]

Yeah, they are very far apart and it only began because GMs started spamming Event scanner pills on us, I believe it was Brickwall, unsure. I know RAD and Brickwall were there, maybe some others too?

How the tuck and fuck do people expect the server to grow if they are playing using their scanners to meta bait sweeps on their OtA? This feels wrong.

 

[Eviction Notice]

No attack from the rebel side

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one APEX unit

APF unit

spamming ''Haha'' and ''Trash'' voicelines at the end while rebels laid in bleedout.

@Wraygun was being silly, he has admitted he was getting carried away. I'll let him speak for himself. APF laughing is on-character, so I won't police that.

utter S2K nonsense

sounds familiar.

In a period where the Combine factions are under heavy scrutiny because of their behavior, is this how you choose to mend relations? By running nonsensical shadow sweeps and dismissing questions from the ET leads?

frankly when the ET lead says I'm 'off the rails' and 'hopes my lead role gets taken away' and then immediately begins refunding people, bypassing our refund request system and defacto abusing their roles, I don't particularly wish to explain my IC actions. I think you need to fix your ability to be professional.

Even if there was a reason for this sweep, the IC behavior shown by these units is appalling and reads as OOC-fueled anger

wrong.

"none of my business"

it quite literally is none of your business as it happens, I do not answer to you as to when the faction operates its' operations.

intense irony to the mid-gear rebels once again catching the full retaliation of the S2K crowds actions

maybe the rebel community will begin policing each others actions? idk, Combine's all about collective punishment.

 

[Elsida]

So here what happend in order.

The Liberators Forces tried to do a crime.

Checkcrime was not reach over a decent time waiting so we decided to go on to the slums.

We waited in the slums for like 1h or so.

OTA got called in....only 2 persons responded....they died.

We kept waiting no one appears so we decide to go base and DC.

After we DC'ed OTA decides to show up and do a shadow sweep with 4/5 OTA 2 of them EOW.

OTA finds you and the rebels on the beach..they get PK'ed.

The end.

WHY IS OTA SWEEPING AFTER AND NOT DURING THE ACTIVE TIME??????
YOU HAD THE NUMBERS CLEARLY AS YOU SWEEPED RIGHT AFTER WE DC'ED.

 

[RedHotGinger]

maybe the rebel community will begin policing each others actions? idk, Combine's all about collective punishment.

I mean to be fair dude, this group wipes out synths, whoever they are.

What are mid-gear rebels gonna be able to do to them?

 

[Eviction Notice]

I mean to be fair dude, this group wipes out synths, whoever they are.

What are mid-gear rebels gonna be able to do to them?

they aren't always armed, they aren't always together. you want these responses to stop? police your side, stop them from being blatantly bombastic in their actions. I won't apologise for enforcing the setting, the Combine are the overlords, not the rebels.

 

[Curbalas]

Are we forgetting the part where Tuki killed a CP, OTA and jumped a cremator when it wasn't check crime with atleast 2-3 vortigaunts, 1-2 AR2s and several people with assault rifles. This is simply a "give and return" situation.
The combine faction shouldn't be punished for what was essentially the rebellions fault for not putting a leash on a specific group. Anyways thats not the point. This is very small and minor problem with them saying "haha" and "trash" its a bit much to say they spammed it

This is blatantly misinformation, the OTA and event scanners pushed into the slums for no reason, a location that does not need checkcrime to be active, and there were no CPs killed. If you are going to make a point get your facts straight or don't even comment.

The CP count magically went down from 10 to 3 when the Liberators were on, then went back to 10-12 when Liberators got off as well, funnily enough.

 

[Elsida]

SWEEP LIST

2 EOW
1 APF
1 SHOTGUNNER
1 OWS

Overkill....

 

[Wraygun]

Hello, I was JUDGE-035 on that shadow sweep. I didn't say those voicelines with any OOC malice whatsoever. I've been carried away, as I'm more used to play my ordinal character (former cop), that is notoriously being overtly expressive. I've got carried away, I forgot for a moment that I was playing an EOW, it's a slip-up on my end which I deeply apologize for. I totally understand why this comes across as me putting salt in the wound. I'm OOCly on good terms with some of you that have commented here though, and I hope this isn't going to create bad blood, because that was hardly my intention.

As for the sweep itself: I do not think the Combine need to do a retaliatory sweep IMMEDIATELY right after something happens every time. That's all I will say from my part.

 

[Acheif]

y’all seem caught up in winning and getting revenge rather then making sense. I don’t see it fair for you to dive bomb people with scanners for existing, nor using those scanners that are dive bombed with intent by those using pills. How is it proper roleplay? How does any of this make sense. You were attacked in slums, so you swept rebel territory?? / infested???

 

[Pierrik]

Serious question : Why do OTA love saying "Haha" so much ?

That seems so much out of character for inhumane supersoldiers.

 

[Badger]

frankly when the ET lead says I'm 'off the rails' and 'hopes my lead role gets taken away' and then immediately begins refunding people, bypassing our refund request system and defacto abusing their roles, I don't particularly wish to explain my IC actions. I think you need to fix your ability to be professional.

I asked you several times in DMs and in chat about what you were doing and you told me to take a hike, after which I said you were off the rails because you were ignoring the ET lead running the damn map. I also didn't do any refunds as you asked. If you don't wish to communicate with ET leads and don't think you have to tell me anything, don't be surprised that complaints come up about you being unwilling to communicate and hard to work with as an FL.

The rest of these are petty non-answers from someone being called out for poor management. Do better for your own faction and for the health of the server, as you are actively pushing people away from both it and your faction with your decisions and refusal to communicate with anyone out of spite.

 

[Curbalas]

This picture sent by Eviction Notice also has missing context, this OTA specifically pushed in through the apartment block and shot at us, I was personally shot by the sniper as you can see my armor level, and we did not push out to eliminate them BEFORE THEY SHOT AT US IN THE SLUMS. So yes, there were no attacks in the city, only OTA pushing in one by one and dying.

@@Wraygun was being silly, he has admitted he was getting carried away. I'll let him speak for himself. APF laughing is on-character, so I won't police that.

I used to believe Shadow Sweeps were supposed to be silent at all circumstances, laughing at one just makes it feel off-character and just looks like a toxic situation. And it is absolutely crazy that no OTA were gathered for 2 hours when Liberators were in-game and they somehow did a shadow sweep right after Liberators left the game, an hour has only passed.

maybe the rebel community will begin policing each others actions? idk, Combine's all about collective punishment.

Or maybe we don't punish other people for roleplaying, and deploy on-time for the rebels that actually cause the problems? Shadow sweeps bring nothing but damage to the server's health, and everyone in this server can agree to that. They are too powerful and not used for the ways they should be used, such as raiding the group in a surprise that was causing trouble. A shadow sweep that happened because of two OTA's being killed in the slums doesn't even justify in according to the guidelines.


How did this shadow sweep level the playing field? How did this shadow sweep affected the group that caused the "problems" for the Combine in the slums? It was nothing but an unprovoked attack on mid-tier rebels who were passive RP'ing and progressing towards the arc.

Have you ever seen rebels get into a city and kill random civillians because "Combine is bad and you guys are staying here, a collective punishment should be given." No, because it did not happen and it will not happen.

The EOWs itself aren't meant to be SENT except EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES, no other group can handle two not even one EOW, especially mid-tier rebels.

 

[RedHotGinger]

Serious question : Why do OTA love saying "Haha" so much ?

Same reason Vortigaunts hit you with that "hmmmm..." energy.

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